Incident on train between Manchester and Stoke

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Macclesfield Express said:
A man is in hospital with a broken jaw and a second man is being treated for a broken leg after an incident on a train.

The incident happened on the 6.46pm train from Manchester Piccadilly to Stoke-On-Trent on Saturday (February 27).

Three men were taken to hospital. A third man was treated after being hit by glass.

All men have since been discharged.

A 16-year-old girl was also reported to have been hit by flying glass but was not taken to hospital.

A spokesperson for British Transport Police (BTP) said: “We are investigating after four people were injured following a disturbance on the 6.46pm Manchester Piccadilly to Stoke train on Saturday, February 27. British Transport Police were called to Macclesfield Railway Station at 7.24pm. Three people were taken to hospital and treated for injuries including a broken leg and a broken jaw, they have now been discharged.

“We are reviewing CCTV from the service and speaking to witnesses.”

A spokesperson from Northern Rail said two trains had to be cancelled as a result of the incident.

Anyone with any information about the incident is asked to contact BTP on 0800 405040 or text 61016 quoting ref 538 of 27/2.

http://www.macclesfield-express.co.uk/news/local-news/man-hospital-broken-jaw-following-10965818

Fortunately, that service was being operated by one of the few Northern trains with CCTV. It doesn't sound like it was football related violence unless it related to the Macclesfield vs Wrexham game being played that day, neither Manchester team were playing at home and Stoke were away at Aston Villa.
 
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http://www.macclesfield-express.co.uk/news/local-news/man-hospital-broken-jaw-following-10965818

Fortunately, that service was being operated by one of the few Northern trains with CCTV. It doesn't sound like it was football related violence unless it related to the Macclesfield vs Wrexham game being played that day, neither Manchester team were playing at home and Stoke were away at Aston Villa.

A terrible incident and your first thought is football related violence........... :roll: sigh
 
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Yes its fantastic the way CCTV prevents crime isn't it.

It'll be harder for the criminals to get away with it if there's video evidence showing their faces.

A terrible incident and your first thought is football related violence........... :roll: sigh

It was early Saturday evening so I was ruling out that possibility before anyone suggested it. The last time I experience a problem on a train (vandalism) it was a group of foreign football fans on the Liverpool-Norwich service.

CCTV? It's a 323 then.

Yes. 319s haven't been cleared for Stoke and 75mph DMUs can't fill in due to the timings.
 

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Yes, not only does it prevent crime it also helps to identify those offenders too thick to realise they are on candid camera!

Depends how good the CCTV pictures are.

Many 'appeals for information' in the printed press / on news websites, are accompanied by photographs which are often too poor to be able to recognise anyone - unless you happen to know someone already, know they were on that train, and have a desire to pass on that information to the police.

Then again, read the coverage of the gang recently sentenced for the Hatton Garden Heist regarding their criminal sophistication in some respects but absolute lack of sense in others, leading to their being caught.
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A terrible incident and your first thought is football related violence........... :roll: sigh

Seems not unreasonable to me, given the time of day and day of the week. Never encountered 'hells grannies', or violent WI outings on my travels, lots of rowdy and worse footie fans though.

Never seen the WI escorted by the police through the streets to their organised jam displays. Never seen groups of shoppers confronted by the police with alsations at stations. Never seen it necessary to accompany day-trippers on trains to ensure / monitor their behaviour.
 
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Football fans have earned their reputation for being thugs over many years, just as their superhero star players have. Now dont get me wrong, it is a minority, albeit significant minority, that tarnish the brush for all of them. However, you only have to witness the drinking and antisocial behaviour that comes with them while travelling to the games to come to that conclusion. As a train manager I have been subject to horrendous grief and been assaulted and pity the innocent passengers feeling intimidated by them.

That said, I have also sat with and had some good crack with people off to or coming back from their games at the same time. Indeed one group of Reading fans travelling back apprehended some young and drunk teenagers who were stealing stock from the on board shop, and made it clear their behaviour was unacceptable because they were conforming to the stereotype!

You could indeed say the same about oil riggers, stag/hen/birthday parties, squaddies on leave, the transpennine pub crawl......
 

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A rather amusing event that I recall was in the 70s when Notts Forest were in the 1st Division (Pre-premier days) had been playing at Manchester United. There was trouble on a train home on the Hope Valley and the train was met at Grindleford by an army of police. The trouble makers were hauled off the train late on a Saturday night and left stranded in the back of beyond.
 

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A rather amusing event that I recall was in the 70s when Notts Forest were in the 1st Division (Pre-premier days) had been playing at Manchester United. There was trouble on a train home on the Hope Valley and the train was met at Grindleford by an army of police. The trouble makers were hauled off the train late on a Saturday night and left stranded in the back of beyond.

That's the way to treat them, it would surely make them think twice before doing it again.
 
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