That isn't really a circular journey and certainly isn't advertised as such, so you'd need a return ticket to Glossop or Hadfield.For example
2G89 1740 Manchester Piccadilly to Manchester Piccadilly
It would be a nice little ride in the summer months
There are circular services from at Pancras, Cannon Street and Waterloo. You could also do Chester to Liverpool return (the Merseyrail loop) or some circular services out of Glasgow central. I’m not sure if the fife circle from Edinburgh is truly circular but someone else can advise.
I assume this thread is referring exclusively to National Rail operated services, but I can assure you that a Circle Line train from Edgware Road to Hammersmith does return to the origin, Edgware Road, before continuing to Hammersmith, if that is the definition of "circle".There used to be the Circle Line, but that doesn't go all the way around nowadays......
Yes that's a 'false destination'.I noticed that "The Cathcart Circle" is no longer shown as such on the departure boards at Glasgow Central - it just shows "Cathcart" as the destination with the stops ending there and not continuing on.
The timetable booklet is titled Cathcart Circle. Am I correct in saying this is now the only National Rail service which is actually advertised as "circle" ?I noticed that "The Cathcart Circle" is no longer shown as such on the departure boards at Glasgow Central
Good point; I can't think of any other services where it's actively advertised as such.The timetable booklet is titled Cathcart Circle. Am I correct in saying this is now the only National Rail service which is actually advertised as "circle" ?
The timetable booklet is titled Cathcart Circle. Am I correct in saying this is now the only National Rail service which is actually advertised as "circle" ?
Or just A-B or A-D, assuming that B or D are not called at twice.Any one of the circular services listed above could be done on one ticket (an applicable rover) or, if a return counts as 'one ticket' then simply a return to the far point (so where a train does A-B-C-D-A, get a return A-C).
Shouldn’t really be valid as you pass through Romsey again.What about The Romsey Rocket?Ticket from Romsey to Salisbury and travel via Southampton, Eastleigh and Chandlers Ford back to Romsey and then to Salisbury.
Same train throughout, fare direct is £7.50 and going the long way round is same price but just takes longer, that's according to National Rail site.
I suspect that the train is not advertised as going to Salisbury whilst at Romsey, so you will be seen to have an invalid ticket.What about The Romsey Rocket?Ticket from Romsey to Salisbury and travel via Southampton, Eastleigh and Chandlers Ford back to Romsey and then to Salisbury.
Same train throughout, fare direct is £7.50 and going the long way round is same price but just takes longer, that's according to National Rail site.
I suspect that the train is not advertised as going to Salisbury whilst at Romsey, so you will be seen to have an invalid ticket.
The Fife Circle was probably changed due to people buying valid tickets to go the long way round I do remember an argument on a forum trip once, which the Guard lost.
Any of the circular rounders in the London Travelcard area would be valid on a Travelcard.
The Hadfield service isn't a "circle" in my book but it would be possible to do that on one inexpensive ticket, such as a GM Wayfarer.
Technically any service that loops back to its origin is valid on "one ticket" as you could use an All Line Rover, even if any regional products were not available.
I'm not really sure what exactly is meant by "circle" or "one ticket"; I suspect the question may be asking about a train which returns to its point of origin, without changing headcode, on a ticket type with "Single" in the name (ie. not a Return or Rover/Ranger product), in which case the answer is no.
Of course the answer will be "yes" if the question is slightly different to that, but it's not really clear what question is being asked.
Or more likely because of the DfT initiative to reduce the number of fares routed "Any Permitted"I haven't really got my head round it as it doesn't affect me but a whole load of tickets have suddenly sprung up in Kent that are route "Not Via Ashford" or Route "Herne Bay". I suspect this is response to people doing the long way round journey out of St Pancras.
I don't think so these are additional routes to "plus high speed" and "not HS1" most "Any Permitted" went with the opening of HS1. I suspect it is an attempt to attract East Kent traffic to the North Kent Line/ HS1 (which is not full) and away from Ashford/ HS1 (which is often full and standing).Or more likely because of the DfT initiative to reduce the number of fares routed "Any Permitted"
Agreed. All Ebbsfleet to Gravesend tickets are routed "PLUS HIGH SPEED".I don't think so these are additional routes to "plus high speed" and "not HS1" most "Any Permitted" went with the opening of HS1. I suspect it is an attempt to attract East Kent traffic to the North Kent Line/ HS1 (which is not full) and away from Ashford/ HS1 (which is often full and standing).
They get advertised as "Redbridge via Southampton Central" (clockwise) or "Chandlers Ford via Southampton Central" (anticlockwise) at Romsey