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presumably you are elderly or in otherwise poor respiratory health? If neither apply it will be no different to normal flu. Try some actual research of the mortality data

No, I'm 18. Currently in Sixth Form College planning to go to University next year.
And even though thankfully in my age area the risk of death is very low to 0, I'm trying my best to be safe and not to catch the virus.
I was planning to go out to Portsmouth (to timelapse / full route visual Stagecoach route 39 Havant to Wecock Farm, First Hampshire Route 7 Wecock Farm to Portsmouth, Stagecoach Hoverbus, First Hampshire Route 6 Portsmouth to Southsea and First Hampshire Route 1 Southsea to Portsmouth. Yep I was going to try out those new YX69 E200 MMCs lol) this week but with the worry that the virus spread will become much worse over the next few days, I felt that it's not worth taking the risk and it's best to stay indoors.
 
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No, I'm 18. Currently in Sixth Form College planning to go to University next year.
And even though thankfully in my age area the risk of death is very low to 0, I'm trying my best to be safe and not to catch the virus.
I was planning to go out to Portsmouth (to timelapse / full route visual Stagecoach route 39 Havant to Wecock Farm, First Hampshire Route 7 Wecock Farm to Portsmouth, Stagecoach Hoverbus, First Hampshire Route 6 Portsmouth to Southsea and First Hampshire Route 1 Southsea to Portsmouth. Yep I was going to try out those new YX69 E200 MMCs lol) this week but with the worry that the virus spread will become much worse over the next few days, I felt that it's not worth taking the risk and it's best to stay indoors.

Well, that's up to you, but I would suggest that you are being unnecessarily paranoid at this stage. If you are 18 and in full health you are at low risk.
 

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Unless you have a serious medical condition of some kind, as things stand you are panicking and should live your life as normal with the precautions advised by the Government i.e. handwashing etc.

If/when it does spread, that advice will change, and you should then follown the changed advice.

The people dealing with this are not thick and do know what they are doing, and it is mostly the civil service, not politicians, that are doing it.

I was living normally until the cases increased. Some of my friends (Who are also bus enthusiasts like me and are around the same age as me) are also starting to stay indoors and not go out on buses until further notice. And no, I'm not panicking, I'm just trying to be safe.
 

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I was living normally until the cases increased. Some of my friends (Who are also bus enthusiasts like me and are around the same age as me) are also starting to stay indoors and not go out on buses until further notice. And no, I'm not panicking, I'm just trying to be safe.

You are safe going out riding on buses. Millions of people are still doing so daily.

There may come a point where you are not. At that point, the Government will advise you of that, and then you can change your behaviour accordingly.
 

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I mean, thanks to all of you for trying to reassure me that everything will be fine! It's just that I prefer to avoid risks, that's all. It's just my own view and opinion.
 

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I mean, thanks to all of you for trying to reassure me that everything will be fine! It's just that I prefer to avoid risks, that's all. It's just my own view and opinion.

Knowing how to assess risk and when it is sensible to take it and when not is a useful life lesson, of course.

As things stand the risk to you crossing the road to the bus stop is higher than the risk of death from coronavirus.

This may change, and if it does the Government will tell you so.
 

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Why isn't public transport suspended in Italy and if its not, why would we do this?

I was on the 18:24 form Clapham Junction to Haslemere tonight and it certainly didn't seem less crowded.

I was on the X26 bus this morning and it didn't seem less busy. Nor did the K3 yesterday morning.

Yeah, I am trying to wonder why they didn't suspend public transport altogether.
 

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I wasn't panicking at all to be fair. I just continued all my activities as normal without worrying about the virus, just maybe take some more precautionary measures like washing my hands more often etc. But once I heard about 6 deaths and 373 positive cases to coronavirus, I decided that at this point it's better to stay indoors and not go out until further notice. And practically everybody is going to do that eventually, which states my point as to why it's a very sensible idea to suspend all public transport soon. But, @
Bletchleyite, I think you do have a very good point there, we shouldn't yet suspend all bus services. I said that suspending all bus services would be the most sensible thing to do once the situation in the UK gets very bad. And with a lot of increasing cases, as I stated before, hardly anyone will be out over the next few days.

If that's what you're like when you're not panicking then I hate to think what you'll be like when matters get worse!
As for 'hardly anyone will be out over the next few days' then you'll soon realise that's utterly ridiculous.
It's comments like this that tends to worry people, needlessly. Perhaps you should listen to the sensible announcements coming from those who actually understand the facts.
 

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They'll probably do what they did in Italy. So basically close schools, universities, offices... everything.

@Everyone I'm not panicking but it's for my safety to not go out, for now. Becuase even though it's only (as of right now) 382 cases with 6 deaths, this will spread to 1000 in a matter of days. And it won't be long until something similar to Italy happens in the UK too.
Italy has an aged population (2nd highest in the world) which has complicated things for them. 4 people a day died in the UK last year from flu (which was a low number, usually it's nearer 30), which wouldn't have sold any papers so went unreported.
 

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Once again, thanks to all of you for saying to not panick! Any message to reassure me is always appreciated, thank you!
If it wasn't for the increasing cases, I would have continued to go out as normal.
 

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Completely suspending all bus services sounds the sensible option for the UK. No one apart from people who aren't feeling well or doctors assisting the unwell is going to be out anyway over the next few weeks, making bus services pointless for now.

Bin men, ambulance drivers, checkout staff etc, are they all going to work from home?
 

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They'll probably do what they did in Italy. So basically close schools, universities, offices... everything.

@Everyone I'm not panicking but it's for my safety to not go out, for now. Becuase even though it's only (as of right now) 382 cases with 6 deaths, this will spread to 1000 in a matter of days. And it won't be long until something similar to Italy happens in the UK too.
Think, how big is the UK population. How large is the UK mainland. That's a very small proportion of our population affected by it.

No, I'm 18. Currently in Sixth Form College planning to go to University next year.
And even though thankfully in my age area the risk of death is very low to 0, I'm trying my best to be safe and not to catch the virus.
I was planning to go out to Portsmouth (to timelapse / full route visual Stagecoach route 39 Havant to Wecock Farm, First Hampshire Route 7 Wecock Farm to Portsmouth, Stagecoach Hoverbus, First Hampshire Route 6 Portsmouth to Southsea and First Hampshire Route 1 Southsea to Portsmouth. Yep I was going to try out those new YX69 E200 MMCs lol) this week but with the worry that the virus spread will become much worse over the next few days, I felt that it's not worth taking the risk and it's best to stay indoors.
Please go and see the MMCs. Don't succumb to the ridiculous media portrayal of coronavirus
The media were using a map of where planes go to show the 'horrific spread of coronavirus'. It obviously goes to show they cannot be trusted. Beware of fake news.
 

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Please go and see the MMCs. Don't succumb to the ridiculous media portrayal of coronavirus
The media were using a map of where planes go to show the 'horrific spread of coronavirus'. It obviously goes to show they cannot be trusted. Beware of fake news.

I suspect I'll get jumped on for this, but ignore all the other media outlets and stick with the Beeb, it is being pretty measured and balanced on the whole thing. We'll miss it when it's gone.

And go out and ride the buses. You most likely won't catch it, and if you do as you're young and healthy it'll just be like a bad cold and 2-3 weeks off school/college/work.
 
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I do think part of it is various govts. need to pretend they can deal with all problems.
In reality there isn't much they can do, I suspect they are just hoping to slow the spread so that not too many people are ill at the same time.

Roughly half a million people die in the UK every year, roughly 1369 a day to put thing in perspective.

I am going to watch "28 days later" to cheer me up.
 

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Tbf, I changed my mind. You're all right, it's nothing serious to worry about unless if the cases increase. So I'll go to Portsmouth on Thursday or Friday. Hope to ride the new Star 7/8 ADL E200 MMCs!
 

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I suspect I'll get jumped on for this, but ignore all the other media outlets and stick with the Beeb, it is being pretty measured and balanced on the whole thing. We'll miss it when it's gone.

And go out and ride the buses. You most likely won't catch it, and if you do as you're young and healthy it'll just be like a bad cold and 2-3 weeks off school/college/work.
I agree, the BBC have been good with coverage.

Tbf, I changed my mind. You're all right, it's nothing serious to worry about unless if the cases increase. So I'll go to Portsmouth on Thursday or Friday. Hope to ride the new Star 7/8 ADL E200 MMCs!
I'm really glad to hear that. Have a good day!
 

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Everyone should bookmark and read these links. It is possible to be cynical about the government/officialdom, some might suggest they are a tad slow to action (remember foot and mouth), but they are going to be a far better source of FACTS than hysterical click-bait news websites desperate for your attention.

UK Government: Information for the public:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

UK Government: Coronovirus Action Plan
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-action-plan

NHS: Advice for the public
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

PS the simple death rate is just under 4% of those diagnosed ie died to date compared to diagnosed to date. Over 53% have recovered.

Death rates from comparable diseases (source Wikipedia):
Asian Flu (1956-58) – around 0.1%
Spanish Flu (1918) – greater than 2.5%
SARS – 11%
MERS – 45%
Ebola – 83% to 90%
 

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Everyone should bookmark and read these links. It is possible to be cynical about the government/officialdom, some might suggest they are a tad slow to action (remember foot and mouth), but they are going to be a far better source of FACTS than hysterical click-bait news websites desperate for your attention.

UK Government: Information for the public:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

UK Government: Coronovirus Action Plan
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-action-plan

NHS: Advice for the public
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

PS the simple death rate is just under 4% of those diagnosed ie died to date compared to diagnosed to date. Over 53% have recovered.

Death rates from comparable diseases (source Wikipedia):
Asian Flu (1956-58) – around 0.1%
Spanish Flu (1918) – greater than 2.5%
SARS – 11%
MERS – 45%
Ebola – 83% to 90%

Yes, Coronavirus has a lower death toll than the other diseases as you mentioned, but apparently it's the fact that's easy to catch it that it causes a lot of panic to people. And let me admit, I was quite panicking a bit. But thanks to you guys I'm feeling much better and I will continue my activities as normal for now. Can't wait to try out those brand new First Solent ADL E200 MMCs on Portsmouth Star 7 (Somers Town - Wecock Farm) and Star 8 (Clarence Pier - Clanfield). I will just, maybe but idk, wear some gloves and a face mask for extra protection.
 

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Yes, Coronavirus has a lower death toll than the other diseases as you mentioned, but apparently it's the fact that's easy to catch it that it causes a lot of panic to people. And let me admit, I was quite panicking a bit. But thanks to you guys I'm feeling much better and I will continue my activities as normal for now. Can't wait to try out those brand new First Solent ADL E200 MMCs on Portsmouth Star 7 (Somers Town - Wecock Farm) and Star 8 (Clarence Pier - Clanfield). I will just, maybe but idk, wear some gloves and a face mask for extra protection.

It's no more easy to catch than other types of coronavirus, the fear factor comes from there not yet being a vaccine and that the mortality rate for a particular group is higher than for other coronavirus related illnesses. As for precautions the gloves might help and allow you to be less concerned about washing your hands all day long but the mask is pointless unless you plan to get up close to strangers.
 
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