Last Stranraer sleeper?

[Argosy]

Could anyone with an old BR timetable advise when the Stranraer sleeper service ended.

Can't recall if it was May 1990 or May 1991.

Thanks

 

[Comstock]

Did that run from Euston via Crewe etc?

 

[gordonthemoron]

Did that run from Euston via Crewe etc?

it did

 

[Ash Bridge]

Could anyone with an old BR timetable advise when the Stranraer sleeper service ended.

Can't recall if it was May 1990 or May 1991.

Thanks

According to Herald Scotland, it ceased on 14th May 1990.

 

[Argosy]

According to Herald Scotland, it ceased on 14th May 1990.

Thanks AB.

Do you have a link to the Herald for that info?

I believe at that date the two(?) carriages went to/from Glasgow where it was attached to the Glasgow sleeper, is that correct?

 

[47271]

I'm not sure about Stranraer sleeper routeing - I thought it went via Mossblown not Glasgow - but I remember using the Carlisle attachment on the Glasgow to Euston sleeper around 1990.

You could get the last local train of the day from Dumfries and then check in to the sleeper in a bay platform at Carlisle around 11pm. Sleep was cruelly disturbed an hour or so later when you were violently propelled across the station and rammed into the rear of the Glasgow to Euston train. Today's Caledonian Sleeper shunts are timid by comparison.

I can't remember if it worked in the same way in reverse. I also recall using the Edinburgh to Plymouth sleeper calling at Carlisle late in the evening, so there were plenty of night trains serving the area at the time.

 

[Argosy]

I'm not sure about Stranraer sleeper routeing - I thought it went via Mossblown not Glasgow - but I remember using the Carlisle attachment on the Glasgow to Euston sleeper around 1990.

You could get the last local train of the day from Dumfries and then check in to the sleeper in a bay platform at Carlisle around 11pm. Sleep was cruelly disturbed an hour or so later when you were violently propelled across the station and rammed into the rear of the Glasgow to Euston train. Today's Caledonian Sleeper shunts are timid by comparison.

I can't remember if it worked in the same way in reverse. I also recall using the Edinburgh to Plymouth sleeper calling at Carlisle late in the evening, so there were plenty of night trains serving the area at the time.

The history of the Paddy as it was known, is this.

The Stranraer Boat Train to London started from London Euston in the 1920s I believe. It was the 10pm from Stranraer and went via Galloway to Dumfries, then WCML to London.

After June 1965 when the Port Road was closed it went Stranraer - Ayr - Mauchline - Dumfries then to London.

When the curve was closed in 1976 between Hawkhill and Blackhouse Jn in Ayr (thus preventing use of the Falkland Jn - Mauchline section) it was re-routed via Kilmarnock and at the end via Glasgow. (Source CJ Fryer Girvan & Portpatrick Jn Railway)

 

[Ash Bridge]

Thanks AB.

Do you have a link to the Herald for that info?

I believe at that date the two(?) carriages went to/from Glasgow where it was attached to the Glasgow sleeper, is that correct?

Sorry, not having much success on my iPad

I just googled last sleeper to Stranraer heraldscotland and found it straight off.

 

[D6975]

I last did the Stranraer sleeper in December 88.
At that time a long rake ran up to Glasgow Central, where it was split into portions for Stranraer, Fort Bill and Inverness (IS also received a full length train too)
The Stranraer portion went straight down via Ayr with a 47.
The Fort Bill was a 37/4 via Rutherglen chord and Central LL.
The Inverness went out towards Coatbridge/Mossend area then turned North up through Cumbernauld to Stirling etc.