Lettering next to ticket prices

[railboy]

Today I bought a day return from Carlisle to Newcastle and when I was checking the ticket I noticed the letter W came immediately after the price so it shows £11.15W. I asked the conductor on the train what the letter meant and he had no idea. I also had a look at some past tickets I've had and notice some have an X on them and others have an M on them.

What are the different variations of lettering found next to the price on train tickets and what does each of these mean? Thanks in advance.

 

[jnjkerbin]

They indicate the method of payment.

 

[bb21]

W is the code for warrant, which can be used for many things in reality, such as payment with Rail Travel Vouchers, RSH loyalty points, warrants, etc.

X is for payment with card, M is for payment with cash and Q is for cheque.

V and Y are for mixed payment methods.

 

[rownd]

M - cash
Q - cheque
W - warrents/vouchers
X - cards

I believe, but not come across, some issuing systems use code W if you split tender on the sale.

Also, the travel agents system Evolvi used to use code W regardless of payment method used but that seems to have been fixed now.

Edit: three in a minute! Thanks also to bb21 for correcting!

 

[Jatos]

I usually have an X on my tickets, I assume this refers to card transactions, but sometimes I see M, what does M mean?

Edit: Nevermind...

 

[railboy]

Thanks for the quick responses. I did use a rail travel voucher but it didnt cover the full price so the remainder was paid in cash so would it not show a code for a mixed payment or does it show the primary method used? I bought a plus bus solely in cash for the same journey and it also has the W code.

 

[trentside]

STAR uses 'V' for transactions where a voucher has been used for part payment.

I believe it will use 'Y' for a transaction that is split card/cash - but need to double check.

 

[barrykas]

From a settlement point of view, a given ticket can have up to three Methods of Payment recorded against it. In descending order of priority, these are Card, Warrant, Cheque and Cash.

Under the traditional settlement process (used by Avantix Mobile, Shere FAST TVMs and Cubic FasTIS, and probably others), any ticket involving a card payment will have an X on it; one with a Voucher/Warrant (but not card) will have a W; one with a Cheque will have a Q; and one with just cash will have an M.

The new Automated Settlement scheme (used by STAR) adds V for payment solely by Rail Travel Voucher, and Y for a combination of card and warrant.

 

[bb21]

The new Automated Settlement scheme (used by STAR) adds V for payment solely by Rail Travel Voucher, and Y for a combination of card and warrant.

The priority list would certainly explain why a mixture of RTVs and cash is printed as V.

That said, I have some tickets paid solely by RTVs issued by STAR as W.

 

[maniacmartin]

I thought that V was half of W - W for warrant and V for partly by warrant

 

[bb21]

I thought that V was half of W - W for warrant and V for partly by warrant

I think there is an emoticon missing somewhere in this sentence.

 

[Oscar]

The priority list would certainly explain why a mixture of RTVs and cash is printed as V.

That said, I have some tickets paid solely by RTVs issued by STAR as W.

EDIT: When mixing RTVs/RSH vouchers and other payment methods I have had "W" when the vouchers made up all of the payment and "X" or "M" when they made up part of it (using Shere FastTicket).

 

[Starmill]

Anecdotally, I bought two tickets with a £12.30 RTV and £3.30 on a card recently. Both had an 'X'. This probably agrees with one theory or another that's proposed above idk!

 

[causton]

Also anecdotally, I wonder what the rule is for seat reservations. For example mine say £0.00 X

 

[bb21]

Also anecdotally, I wonder what the rule is for seat reservations. For example mine say £0.00 X

Probably follows the code on the ticket.

 

[Oscar]

Anecdotally, I bought two tickets with a £12.30 RTV and £3.30 on a card recently. Both had an 'X'. This probably agrees with one theory or another that's proposed above idk!

I think this is the reason:

...

Under the traditional settlement process (used by Avantix Mobile, Shere FAST TVMs and Cubic FasTIS, and probably others), any ticket involving a card payment will have an X on it; one with a Voucher/Warrant (but not card) will have a W; one with a Cheque will have a Q; and one with just cash will have an M.

The new Automated Settlement scheme (used by STAR) adds V for payment solely by Rail Travel Voucher, and Y for a combination of card and warrant.

 

[The Quincunx]

My Southern Daysave last week had a W on it, presumably to ensure that I could not seek a refund on it.

 

[CC 72100]

Although not related to means of payment, does anyone know what 'L2' above the 'SEE RESTRICTIONS' text on an Off-Peak Day return stands for? Only noticed it appearing on my tickets in the past month or so.

 

[cjohnson]

Although not related to means of payment, does anyone know what 'L2' above the 'SEE RESTRICTIONS' text on an Off-Peak Day return stands for? Only noticed it appearing on my tickets in the past month or so.

Presumably that's the off-peak restriction/validity code - a ticket I used at the weekend has 'J9' in the same place. The full list is here

 

[SS4]

Although not related to means of payment, does anyone know what 'L2' above the 'SEE RESTRICTIONS' text on an Off-Peak Day return stands for? Only noticed it appearing on my tickets in the past month or so.

Perhaps it's the restriction code? BRFares has L2 as fares from London to the West Country

 

[CC 72100]

Yep, you both seem to be right. Just find it interesting that the same ticket from 4th March doesn't have the code on it, but one from the week later does. It relates to the use of off-peak restrictions when travelling Northbound on the Barnstaple branch. Cheers for the link!

 

[maniacmartin]

Restriction codes being printed on tickets is a relatively new thing. It is slowly being introduced at ticket machines across the network. Currently some will print it and some will not.

 

[trentside]

That said, I have some tickets paid solely by RTVs issued by STAR as W.

Indeed, while I've also had the same transactions come out with 'V'.

I did a voucher transaction today, paid wholly with vouchers (and plus a voucher surplus) that STAR issued as 'W'. I don't no whether the company issuing the vouchers affects it? We have to distinguish between an 'External' voucher and those issued by our own TOC.

 

[pinguini]

Yep, you both seem to be right. Just find it interesting that the same ticket from 4th March doesn't have the code on it, but one from the week later does. It relates to the use of off-peak restrictions when travelling Northbound on the Barnstaple branch. Cheers for the link!

I've been noticing all my tickets over the past few weeks have had these codes on them, it's a fairly new thing to be printed.