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Liverpool to Glasgow TPE
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I think it’s December as Real-time trains lists trains from Leeds as terminating in Scotland as oppose to Newcastle once an hour, ran by TransPennine Express.
I think the OP is referring to Liverpool to Glasgow via WCML trains rather than the Liverpool to Edinburgh via ECML trains.
It rather depends on rolling stock and trained staff being available.
Given there is little sign of 397s being ready or anything else to free up 185s to be used instead it doesn't look likely that the Liverpool to Glasgow services start shortly.
They are in the timetable as running in service from December. Empty before then.
It rather depends on rolling stock and trained staff being available.
Given there is little sign of 397s being ready or anything else to free up 185s to be used instead it doesn't look likely that the Liverpool to Glasgow services start shortly.
They are in the timetable as running in service from December. Empty before then.
Paths are in now but are down as class 5s. It all depends on Class 397 introduction and crew training/availability.
In reality, I wouldn’t expect to see this before December, as due to the Cl 350 hand back, there is likely to be a period where there isn’t any surplus rolling stock to operate services outside of the current provision.
In reality, I wouldn’t expect to see this before December, as due to the Cl 350 hand back, there is likely to be a period where there isn’t any surplus rolling stock to operate services outside of the current provision.
Hi all, first time posting after some long term viewing!
As a resident of Edinburgh, I have kept an eye on the Glasgow-Liverpool direct train. One bit of news I managed to miss until I stumbled across on the forum was the direct train Edinburgh-Liverpool, with the misses and me planning a trip to Liverpool sometime before May 2020 this would come very handy without having to change over, despite the trip being longer, laziness and convenience is always a winner for me.
Have "planned" a few trips on train-line starting in January and looks like that is when the timetable for direct trains kicks in for both Glasgow/Edinburgh-Liverpool.
As a resident of Edinburgh, I have kept an eye on the Glasgow-Liverpool direct train. One bit of news I managed to miss until I stumbled across on the forum was the direct train Edinburgh-Liverpool, with the misses and me planning a trip to Liverpool sometime before May 2020 this would come very handy without having to change over, despite the trip being longer, laziness and convenience is always a winner for me.
Have "planned" a few trips on train-line starting in January and looks like that is when the timetable for direct trains kicks in for both Glasgow/Edinburgh-Liverpool.
The Liverpool - Glasgow and Liverpool Edinburgh are two completely different operations.
Liverpool - Edinburgh via York is an extension of an existing service so is arguably easier to implement, whereas Glasgow is an entirely new offering.
Liverpool - Edinburgh via York is an extension of an existing service so is arguably easier to implement, whereas Glasgow is an entirely new offering.
An entirely new offering but really just additional services between Glasgow and Wigan North Western over the route they already run that then happen to go to Liverpool rather than Manchester Airport.
And considered in that context-not really such a big deal to sort out you would have thought?!
Yes, more down to lack of stock than lack of driver training I imagine.
Of course you could temporarily slim down the Scotland-Manchester Airport provision a tiny bit (which might offer other benefits in terms of congestion reduction)
New path for a later TPE service out of GLC.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C03669/2019/12/18/advanced
Terminates in Preston but atleast its not only edinburgh that now has these.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C03669/2019/12/18/advanced
Terminates in Preston but atleast its not only edinburgh that now has these.
Said later train has already had stops taken out of it making it less useful.
There's also a late Man Airport-Carlisle service;
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y33472/2019/12/18/advanced
Again this has also had a stop taken out of it since appearing on RTT.
Kite159
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It might have something to do with staffing at Lancaster as it would be 50 minutes after the last train had called and TPE might not want to pay Virgin to keep the station open.
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I saw one Glasgow - Liverpool TPE service on RTT yesterday which appeared to randomly call at Carstairs.
Yes and Lancaster isn't the only station………
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