Ashley Hill
Established Member
Perhaps variations on the old Intercity liveries. Red stripe for intercity,light blue for Scotland,dark blue provincial etc.
Government owned LNER does and nobody cares
Why not?
That would get my vote. Would be smart and consistent , though I feel it isn't brash enough for the age we live in sadly.Perhaps variations on the old Intercity liveries. Red stripe for intercity,light blue for Scotland,dark blue provincial etc.
GB includes England, Wales and Scotland as in the island of Great Britain excluding Northern Ireland so technically Wales should be included. Otherwise a totally different naming system should be used.Bad example. The 175’s are in TfW colours which won’t come under GBR so would need re-doing anyway.
Yes I understand the geography of Great Britain but it’s irrelevant in this context.GB includes England, Wales and Scotland as in the island of Great Britain excluding Northern Ireland so technically Wales should be included. Otherwise a totally different naming system should be used.
TfW, Scotrail, Northern Railways, Midlands Rail, SouthWestern, Intercity, London Regional.
Let's hope they don't paint it all green then.. cant't bare that livery with it's 2010 aesthetic and it's lack of modern feel- it's all Southern, t
Quite possibly something like the Paris RER where it's owned by both SNCF (national operator) and RATP (public transit authority of Paris) maybe? If that were the case then while you could end up with multiple liveries for each line, I'd think the more likely outcome is putting some of these metro-style services in the same livery as the Elizabeth Line as part of some new Crossrail network since that's currently the closest equivalent to the Paris RER but has just one colour scheme.Has anyone considered there would be a "metro" section of GBR?
I take it you’ve never owned a black car. The hardest colour to keep clean. I’ve had most colours and silver was actually the easiest to keep looking clean.Could just paint the trains black with silver or white doors for contrast.
The dirt won't show so much at least!
Why does the UK obsess with the past so much. It’s so sad that people don’t want to look to the future.Just bring back Blue/Grey, I say. Smart, Simple, and easily recognisable.
DittoWhy does the UK obsess with the past so much. It’s so sad that people don’t want to look to the future.
Let's hope they don't paint it all green then.. cant't bare that livery with it's 2010 aesthetic and it's lack of modern feel
Has anyone considered there would be a "metro" section of GBR?
Why does the UK obsess with the past so much. It’s so sad that people don’t want to look to the future.
I agree (with the first part) - they probably won't just straight up use the BR liveries but base whatever's next off those liveries/draw HEAVY inspiration from themReusing old BR liveries won't work, trains are a lot more styled and curvy that back in BR days, look at LNER, the livery they've put the Mk4 sets into looks really good, but it wouldn't sit well on the 800s at all.
Honestly, that's awful, the branding doesn't work and the big yellow square just looks messy.
Well it fits with the standard declinist narrative.I take it you’ve never owned a black car. The hardest colour to keep clean. I’ve had most colours and silver was actually the easiest to keep looking clean.
Why does the UK obsess with the past so much. It’s so sad that people don’t want to look to the future.
Why would that happen though. BR ended nearly 30 years ago. People really need to get out of this harking back to the past mindset and look to the future. The world has moved on and despite what people think (enthusiasts or those with an axe to grind against the company they work for in the main it seems) it’s the chance to reset with a completely clean slate, not go back to a time which is mainly looked at with rose tinted glasses. I started as an apprentice under BR in the late 80’s and I can tell you that it wasn’t as glorious as many seem to want to make out. Why do so many people want to drag us back in time?I agree (with the first part) - they probably won't just straight up use the BR liveries but base whatever's next off those liveries/draw HEAVY inspiration from them
This reminds me of James May ranting about the Rover 75Why would that happen though. BR ended nearly 30 years ago. People really need to get out of this harking back to the past mindset and look to the future. The world has moved on and despite what people think (enthusiasts or those with an axe to grind against the company they work for in the main it seems) it’s the chance to reset with a completely clean slate, not go back to a time which is mainly looked at with rose tinted glasses. I started as an apprentice under BR in the late 80’s and I can tell you that it wasn’t as glorious as many seem to want to make out. Why do so many people want to drag us back in time?
I completely agree. I just believe that liveries inspired by BR are most likely. I at least hope that they modernise it suitably, over just slapping IC Swallow on a 390 and calling it a day. Ideally, I'd want an all-new livery that pays homage to what came before but is a totally new, separate thing designed for the 2020s and beyond.Why would that happen though. BR ended nearly 30 years ago. People really need to get out of this harking back to the past mindset and look to the future. The world has moved on and despite what people think (enthusiasts or those with an axe to grind against the company they work for in the main it seems) it’s the chance to reset with a completely clean slate, not go back to a time which is mainly looked at with rose tinted glasses. I started as an apprentice under BR in the late 80’s and I can tell you that it wasn’t as glorious as many seem to want to make out. Why do so many people want to drag us back in time?
Where I would take issue here is that GBR is not a move to how things were in BR days so the re-adoption or adaption of an old BR livery in the way the LNER have taken is pushing the wrong message to what GBR is.I agree with you to a point, but I think that modernising a former BR livery would be a good idea. Even you can't deny that LNER's 225s look ace.
100%The world has moved on and despite what people think (enthusiasts or those with an axe to grind against the company they work for in the main it seems) it’s the chance to reset with a completely clean slate, not go back to a time which is mainly looked at with rose tinted glasses.
Not quite sure what is intended by the words ‘even you’ but anyway they look ok but then again it’s a livery style which was designed for them nearly 40 years ago so should sit ok on them. It would not work on an Azuma or one of the new Civities which are on order.This reminds me of James May ranting about the Rover 75. I agree with you to a point, but I think that modernising a former BR livery would be a good idea. Even you can't deny that LNER's 225s look ace.
If only there were some liveries for InterCity trains, railways in the regions, and the network of commuter routes in the SouthEast that the UK government already had the rights to.I doubt that anything would be done immediately but I'm guessing that stock would be slowly rebranded when going through refresh works or as new trains join the network.
I think a consistent livery would push the messaging of a reformed and united system but also would think that there'd need to be some sort of differenciation between intercity, regional and commuter.
Once again I really doubt that we're going back to Network SouthEast. This is paint the picture of going backwards. Despite enthusiasts maybe seeing this as a move back to the "good old days", commuters and average people will remember all the woes of travels from those days like the old slam doors and similar and believe it's a step backward rather than forwardIf only there were some liveries for InterCity trains, railways in the regions, and the network of commuter routes in the SouthEast that the UK government already had the rights to.
Perhaps variations on the old Intercity liveries. Red stripe for intercity,light blue for Scotland,dark blue provincial etc.
Merseyrail, WYPTE and NSE style.I imagine certain regions may demand some sort of unique branding for services operating in that area. I can imagine Manchester council fighting the corner for bee network branding on Manchester commuter services.