London Overground 378

[vitesse]

Walked in thru the shed today and there was one on No. 1 Road and andother on No. 2 Road.
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May just be roumour but there was talk of a 378 going into the bay platform at Willesden monday 18th for some sort of launch, apparently some media coverage etc. However this is just messroom rumours and have no factual info to back it up with.

 

[anthony263]

hopefully when i next visit london in june i can get a ride on 1

 

[Danielo]

Any sign of a 378 today then?

Saw two in the TMD at Willesden this morning (about 8.50am)

 

[Electrostar]

There were rumours on the Skyscraper City forum of a Class 378 press launch today but, even if a unit is ready, I can't imagine they'd have an official launch while Boris Johnson is in South Korea.

 

[Danielo]

I caught a glimpse of 001 and 005 in the TMD at Willesden yesterday evening, at about 5.30ish.

 

[Electrostar]

In theory, if their was a sub-class of 378s which only worked the TFL-owned East London Line from Dalston Junction to New Cross and didn't cross on to Network Rail tracks, could it have an all-over red cab, rather than a yellow one? (Obviously this wouldn't happen but in theory.)

 

[313103]

I caught a glimpse of 001 and 005 in the TMD at Willesden yesterday evening, at about 5.30ish.

You sure that is 001 and not 007. 001 was taken back to Derby. When i walked around the TMD at Willesden on Friday last only 005 and 007 was there.

The 'proposed show on Monday did not take place. I am at a meeting with the Directors and they will no doubt let me know how near we are getting the trains. If it can be let known to the public i will post here.

 

[The Planner]

The 378s are still doing milage accumulation up and down the WCML to Bletchley and back. Late night services though, due in Bletchley around 2300 I think.

 

[Danielo]

You sure that is 001 and not 007. 001 was taken back to Derby. When i walked around the TMD at Willesden on Friday last only 005 and 007 was there.

You could be right, I may have mistaken the '7' for a '1' - details are difficult to see at about 75 mph!

 

[NSEFAN]

if their was a sub-class of 378s which only worked the TFL-owned East London Line from Dalston Junction to New Cross and didn't cross on to Network Rail tracks, could it have an all-over red cab, rather than a yellow one?

Can't see why not. The Metropolitan line trains have red ends, and they run on "mainline" track, albeit owned by LUL. It's actually the chiltern units that need to conform to the LUL safety equipment between Harrow on the Hill and Amersham.

But like you said it wouldn't happen. It'd be silly to do so. If they're all suitable for mainline use then it's a more flexible system in case of failures. But that'll never happen.

 

[313103]

Class 378s will start to enter passenger service on Monday 15 June 2009, this came from the Operations Director and Managing Director London Overground. Not sure which unit it will be though.

Was also informed that unit 005 has completed its 2,000 fault free miles, so therefore staff training can commence very shortly. Unit 007 is not far behind and the company are expecting more to arrive very quickly in the next couple of weeks.

Was told that they are watching the window very closely regarding the new build class 172s which are also being manufactured by Bombardier, as you know already the introduction of the class 378s is already 7 months behind schedule.

Now if you haven't already is to get your chance of getting your milage and piccys of the class 313s.

 

[will1337]

Any knowledge as to when there'll be a pretty mixed fleet on the NLL, as I would get a 7 day season along the NLL when the 378s are coming in but I'm fond of the 313s.

 

[Electrostar]

What stage are the 172s at? Have there been any photos published yet of the bodies or cabs, or are they not even at that point yet?

 

[313103]

In reply to will1337, not sure when we will a pretty mix bag, but i would probabaly think that the latter part of June or through July. Cannot guarentee anything but i could keep you up to date with any information that i get.

In reply to Electrostar, no work has started on the build yet, but obviously LOROL managers are concerned even at this early stage. I belive that the build of the 172s will start earlier in 2010.

 

[Pumbaa]

What stage are the 172s at? Have there been any photos published yet of the bodies or cabs, or are they not even at that point yet?

The production lines at Derby are full, they only have five. Two are on 377s for FCC, 1 for 378s for TfL, 1 on S Stock for TfL and 1 on 2009 Stock for TfL.

It is hoped that that the 377s will be turned over to 172s as soon as they are done.

 

[mackenzie_blu]

The production lines at Derby are full, they only have five. Two are on 377s for FCC, 1 for 378s for TfL, 1 on S Stock for TfL and 1 on 2009 Stock for TfL.

It is hoped that that the 377s will be turned over to 172s as soon as they are done.

So the first 172 will start being built in late August then.

 

[Pumbaa]

So the first 172 will start being built in late August then.

I presume so if that is when the 377s are scheduled to be done!

 

[mackenzie_blu]

Yes, last 377/5 in due to be with FCC mid sept.

 

[Danielo]

Any idea which route the new 378 will start on?

 

[313103]

Due to problems with the DOO equipment, it is likely that the first 378 will enter service on the North London Line/West London Line.

 

[33056]

Due to problems with the DOO equipment, it is likely that the first 378 will enter service on the North London Line/West London Line.

I notice that there is a new "378 stop" mark on the down DC platform at Stonebridge Park, it is some distance short of the existing DOO mirror.

 

[Danielo]

I wonder how long it will take for these trains to be vandalised?

 

[2030720310]

I wonder how long it will take for these trains to be vandalised?

at first they may get lots of protection but may, sadly, not be long :

 

[anthony263]

Hopefully i will get to have a trip on one of these new class 378s when i next visit london in july

 

[westcoaster]

related to the 378's ive got to say new cross depot it coming along at a blinding pace, all roads laid and third rail in place, tamping taking place this week, connection onto the down london bridge slow in place, connection from the up london bridge slow and up and over the bridge all in place, new up sidding in place and signals working, all signals in place, can't be long now till it opens.

 

[mackenzie_blu]

For anyone wanting ti know wht Shoreditch High Street is now Zone 1, well I have the answer for you;

"Thank you for your email.

Yes, I can confirm that the Secretary of State (Department for Transport) has set out a condition that Shoreditch be a Zone 1 station as part of the funding deal that’s been agreed.

As with most of these type of agreements, they are complicated and involved and I'm not in a position to provide further details of the reasoning behind the decision. "

Its taken me a few weeks to get this information but seems ELLX Phase 2 has come at a price.

 

[313103]

The introduction of the class 378s has now been put back yet again, the new date is now supposed to be June 29. No surprises there as no conductors have been trained and very drivers either.

 

[AC/DC Boy.]

yeah, we do kind of need to take stronger action against people who vandalise, to act as a deterrent against this

Isn't that what the British Transport Police is here for?

 

[mackenzie_blu]

Been reported by Tim from SE Gen group

378016 will be moved south 02/06/09
378013 will be moved south 05/06/09

Isn't that what the British Transport Police is here for?

Especially as every 378 will have cameras in very car.

 

[Dazz285]

Been reported by Tim from SE Gen group

378016 will be moved south 02/06/09
378013 will be moved south 05/06/09
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Can't wait to test them
378005 completed 2000 miles of testing and 378007 nearly done, few more days this week to Tring and back..