London to Exeter validity

[NeilWatson]

I hold an 'Anytime Return' from London Terminals to Exeter St Davids, valid only via Honiton. It is dated from 7th March to 6th April.

I understand that I can travel outbound 'within five days of the start date' - so assume that outward travel on Monday 11th March would be valid.

Which routes are valid with this ticket?

Thanks in advance

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

I hold an 'Anytime Return' from London Terminals to Exeter St Davids, valid only via Honiton. It is dated from 7th March to 6th April.

I understand that I can travel outbound 'within five days of the start date' - so assume that outward travel on Monday 11th March would be valid.

Which routes are valid with this ticket?

Thanks in advance

Subject to the route restriction of 'via Honiton', you can travel on:

• Any direct (through) train from London Terminals to Exeter St Davids;
• The shortest route wholly by rail, or any route no more than 3 miles longer than this;
• Any trains along the routes shown by maps LE or PZ.

The shortest route wholly by rail from London Terminals to Exeter St Davids appears to be from Paddington via Taunton - which is, obviously, not permitted given the route restriction on your ticket. However, numerous other routes are available, from Paddington, Waterloo etc. which are within 3 miles of this distance.

If you do wish to travel via Taunton rather than Honiton, you would be able to obtain a 'change of route' excess at any ticket office or onboard the train (there is no penalty for doing so onboard). For an excess in one direction only, the amount payable would be half the difference between the fare paid for your ticket, and the cost of the appropriate ticket (relative to the time you actually travelled). This may, therefore, range from nothing at all (if the appropriate ticket is less expensive than the one you already hold), to £55.20 if you travel at a time where only the Anytime ticket is valid.

 

[richw]

Until 8th March Gwr through trains are running via honiton due to Exeter to Taunton line being closed.

The normal through service from Exeter St David’s to Waterloo would be the direct train your ticket would be valid for.

Discard the above post mentioning Taunton being the shortest route for the 3 mile rule, your ticket isn’t valid via Taunton. The 3 mile rule applies from the shortest route that is via honiton in this case.

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

Until 8th March Gwr through trains are running via honiton due to Exeter to Taunton line being closed.

The normal through service from Exeter St David’s to Waterloo would be the direct train your ticket would be valid for.

Discard the above post mentioning Taunton being the shortest route for the 3 mile rule, your ticket isn’t valid via Taunton. The 3 mile rule applies from the shortest route that is via honiton in this case.

The shortest route doesn't change depending on the route of the ticket you have. In fact, it may even be that there are no routes at all that are permissible via the 'shortest + ≤3' rule for certain routes of tickets.

 

[30907]

There's no major obvious route within 3 miles, as Paddington-Reading-Basingstoke is nearly 4 miles longer, so the maps will give you all you need. .

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

There's no major obvious route within 3 miles, as Paddington-Reading-Basingstoke is nearly 4 miles longer, so use the map.

I included the part about within 3 miles, because it may permit certain routes within London that aren't necessarily mapped.

 

[Mike99]

The shortest route wholly by rail from London Terminals to Exeter St Davids appears to be from Paddington via Taunton - which is, obviously, not permitted given the route restriction on your ticket. However, numerous other routes are available, from Paddington, Waterloo etc. which are within 3 miles of this distance.

I'm just asking politely, which are the; 'numerous other routes are available, from Paddington, Waterloo etc. which are within 3 miles of this distance'.

 

[yorkie]

The shortest route wholly by rail from London Terminals to Exeter St Davids appears to be from Paddington via Taunton - which is, obviously, not permitted given the route restriction on your ticket. However, numerous other routes are available, from Paddington, Waterloo etc. which are within 3 miles of this distance.

I'm just asking politely, which are the; 'numerous other routes are available, from Paddington, Waterloo etc. which are within 3 miles of this distance'.

It's much easier to ask us if a particular route is valid, and then we can easily give an answer.

As well as all permitted routes from origin to destination which pass through Honiton (both under the mapped and shortest route rules), we can also use all permitted routes from origin to Honiton, and again from Honiton to destination.

Discard the above post mentioning Taunton being the shortest route for the 3 mile rule, your ticket isn’t valid via Taunton. The 3 mile rule applies from the shortest route that is via honiton in this case.

The shortest route rule allows us to use:

• routes up to 3 miles longer than the the overall shortest route from origin to destination (though these are only validated if they pass through Honiton in this case); AND
• routes up to 3 miles longer than the shortest route from origin to Honiton, for travel as far as Honiton; AND
• routes up to 3 miles longer than the shortest route from Honiton to destination, for travel beyond Honiton.

If the chosen origin London Terminal is Waterloo, the shortest route is via Honiton anyway. (Yes, the shortest route from Waterloo to Exeter is different to the shortest route from Paddington to Exeter)

Sorry I don't have time to provide an exhaustive list of permitted routes, but there are some misunderstandings in this thread, which I think need to be cleared up.

 

[NeilWatson]

The origin is ‘London Terminals’.

I am interested to know whether I might take differing routes outward and return rather than the obvious Waterloo to Exeter via Woking, Salisbury, Yeovil Junction and Honiton.

Thanks

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

The origin is ‘London Terminals’.

I am interested to know whether I might take differing routes outward and return rather than the obvious Waterloo to Exeter via Woking, Salisbury, Yeovil Junction and Honiton.

Thanks

You can go via Reading and Basingstoke. But other than that, your only other area where you have a choice about the route is within the London area - unless you make use of one of the GWR diversions via Honiton.