London to Hatton permitted routes

[Birmingham]

Can anyone please help me with the permitted routes from London to Hatton?

What does the ‘Any Permitted’ fare allow you to do that the ‘via Banbury’ fare does not?

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Can anyone please help me with the permitted routes from London to Hatton?

What does the ‘Any Permitted’ fare allow you to do that the ‘via Banbury’ fare does not?

Travel via Coventry perhaps? Anyone able to confirm?

 

[CyrusWuff]

Travel via Coventry perhaps? Anyone able to confirm?

Spot on. Applies to all the stations between Leamington Spa and Wilmcote (inclusive.)

 

[Birmingham]

Thank you. Can anyone confirm how travel via Coventry is permitted by the Routeing Guide?

 

[Watershed]

Thank you. Can anyone confirm how travel via Coventry is permitted by the Routeing Guide?

You could travel Hatton-Birmingham-Coventry-Leamington-Banbury and onwards to Marylebone, or Paddington via Reading. For some bizarre reason, Warwick Routeing Point Group (which Hatton belongs to) to London isn't permitted via the WCML. But that is undoubtedly an oversight as Leamington to London is, and this fare is priced by Avanti.

 

[jfollows]

Thank you. Can anyone confirm how travel via Coventry is permitted by the Routeing Guide?

London-Warwick (of which group Hatton is a member) is valid using maps

• GC - via High Wycombe, Banbury and Leamington
• WR + BB - via Reading, Oxford, Banbury and Leamington

Coventry is on both maps and gives a route Leamington-Coventry-Birmingham-Hatton

London Euston via Coventry is not an option, though.

EDIT Watershed posted a minute before I did, but we agree anyway! My initial thought had been otherwise - that there was no valid route via Coventry - but then I studied the maps more diligently and saw that there was.

 

[Birmingham]

Thanks both.

WCML is what I was looking for. As @Watershed refers, I am confused why the Any Permitted fare would exist if not for travel via the WCML. I gather it is either an oversight that the fare exists and is not removed for Warwick/Hatton, or an oversight that the route is not available, but I am not sure which.

If you held a Hatton via Banbury ticket, would you be confident in expecting an excess to the Any Permitted ticket to travel via the WCML?

 

[jfollows]

Given that the "any permitted" ticket is priced by Avanti West Coast, you'd think it'd at least be usable on their services ... I think the ticket from Leamington Spa is the same price so if you used this and paid for a single Hatton-Leamington you'd be fine of course.

If

• EB + RB

were added to the routeing guide as a permitted route London-Warwick this would also "solve" the problem and presumably correct the oversight.

 

[jfollows]

From Thursday 23 May (https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/national-routeing-guide-update.99396/page-56#post-6782886):

London Group (G01) to Stratford U Group (G72) gain EN+SM
London Group (G01) to Warwick Group (G73) gain EN+SM
These journeys now have mapped routes via Rugby.

 

[Birmingham]

From Thursday 23 May (https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/national-routeing-guide-update.99396/page-56#post-6782886):

Thank you!