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East Croydon's station seems to be getting a bad rap here, and I'm not seeing it. Perhaps I've just been fortunate that all my visits over the years haven't encountered any significant issues.
Stoke Newington is a dump too as is Cambridge Heath and many other stations on that line.Clapton is very unpleasant. In a deep cutting with long staircases to get out and no lifts.
Add the utterly shambolic platform numbering to that.Its toilets have already had a dishonourable mention - but I’m going to put in a vote for the overcrowded rabbit warren that is Stratford. OK - there are more depressing places, but few that I’m so pleased to leave!
The absolutely vile toilets are hidden by the escalators by the Stratford bus station entrance. You have to be bloody desperate to consider using them.My favourite London station, for all the diversity it provides. Wasn't aware it had any toilets apart from an accessible one near the Jubilee line platforms where you have to ask for the key. Quite how Liverpool St and even Euston have got in this thread is curious too.
Meanwhile a toss up between Clapton and South Bermondsey, both already mentioned.
Add the utterly shambolic platform numbering to that.
The absolutely vile toilets are hidden by the escalators by the Stratford bus station entrance. You have to be bloody desperate to consider using them.
Where did that platform numbering even come from? Was a nightmare combined with all of the underground, aswell as the "lesser-spotted platform 8 train"!Add the utterly shambolic platform numbering to that.
Agreed but not necessarily ideal if someone is travelling on PAYG.Just pop into Westfield if you need to sprinkle your boots -- plenty of decent toilets in there.
It grew like Topsy l guess.Where did that platform numbering even come from? Was a nightmare combined with all of the underground, aswell as the "lesser-spotted platform 8 train"!
It’s not as bad as Euston. But I agree Marylebone is a bit of a let-down. It’s kind of typical Chiltern really - “we’re Chiltern and better than everyone else, but we will keep you waiting on the concourse even longer than Branson does, our staff are almost as rude as Euston, and here’s your lovely 2-car DMU for your journey to Birmingham, which when it starts moving will rattle every bit as much as an old class 105 did, but aren’t Chiltern special?”.
That fire probably improved the station.Haha state of that least the horrid slab of pavement that killed off the roundabout. Least the fireball that happened not long ago showing a real risk of fire hazard aswell as the station immediately filled up with toxic smoke that covered the only escape routes.
Images above from the fireball caused by a vehicle fire under the arches, mechanic store related.
An image below from Wikipedia that still reminds me of my journeys thru and to the elephant pre 2013 days.
It's not just the whitgift nowdays thoughI absolutely hate Finsbury Park. Bad interchange, lack of concourse, weird location of ticket barriers and the immediate frontage is a dump.
The shops are emptying because they still do plan to rebuild the Whitgift. It's not going to be as big as first planned for shops, instead with more homes.
I used to commute from Camden Road to Hackney Central in the mid 80's, particularly unpleasant in the dark on the reverse journeyOh yes it does show how things have changed that the Watford new lines haven’t had a mention on here. We no doubt all remember the “personal security issues” which arose during Silverlink days, though I wouldn’t say the stations ever degenerated into that much of a bad state, it was more the scarcity of staff and the local clientele using them. But Stonebridge Park and Harlesden in the evening were a pretty memorable experience, not much better at certain other times of day, and the likes of Willesden Junction and Kensal Green weren’t much better.
I bet the same could be said for a few North London Line stations as well, though even in those days they tended to be busier than the New Lines which presumably suppressed an element of trouble.
I lived in Hackney Road for a while in the 80's/90's Cambridge Heath, London Fields, Bethnal Green and Hackney Downs all dreadful, they all seem better nowStoke Newington is a dump too as is Cambridge Heath and many other stations on that line.
Haha definitely did some emergency sterilisationThat fire probably improved the station.
In terms of London's termini, I can see why Euston gets mentioned. Liverpool Street is in a different league, so absolutely does not deserve to be included in this thread. It may not be perfect, but to be considered one of the worst termini in London? Absolutely not, I'd suggest Marylebone is one of the worst terminus stations but I'll be here a while about that.
I say that about Euston being a bad terminus, but I have a bit of a soft spot for it. I have spent a lot of time there and a lot of my adventures have had Euston as a part of them. There's almost a weirdly magical feel about the station, which sounds crazy I know, and I would be here a while discussing the reasons.
I'd like to throw a new contender into the ring, not a terminus but a station more befitting of this thread. Willesden Junction. It's not in the same league as Brixton or Loughborough Junction, but certainly worthy of contending in the same league as Peckham Rye which I don't like all that much either. There's a weird vibe in the air at both Willesden Junction and Peckham Rye, which is the best way I can explain that.
Not to mention the rancid facilities at Willesden Junction, which make it a contender without any other reason!
Yes, they really are a poor relation compared to LO and LU. Perhaps they (stations and innersuburban Southeastern and Southern services) should be transferred to LO, at least that would resolve the issue of them being chronically underinvested.
I go through Dagenham Dock quite often. I'm all too happy to never have to actually get off there.....If TfL had the money sure, just turning something into London Overground won't suddenly transform it!
Loughborough Junction is a really poor one, as are Slade Green and Dagenham Dock. Also the Sutton Loop has some pretty forgetful and unloved stops.
East Croydon's station seems to be getting a bad rap here, and I'm not seeing it. Perhaps I've just been fortunate that all my visits over the years haven't encountered any significant issues.
Just to prove how subjective these things can be, I’m rather fond of Peckham Rye! I appreciate that it has it’s drawbacks in terms of accessibility etc. though.
The surrounding area is pretty bad which might be why its gets a bad rap, but the station itself I find is fine.
Fair enough, to each our own and all that! I think some of my opinion does come from the area too immediately outside the station, I really didn't like my visit there and the inaccessible station really didn't help!
I'd still rather spend an hour there than at Loughborough Junction though!
I know what you mean, it’s not exactly gentrified around there. However, turn right when you exit the station then right again and you’ll find the Brick Brewery tap room which is well worth a visit!
Once upon a time I'd have been all over that, but I've been teetotal for years
It is perfectly logical, if you are old enough to remember where the NLL Platforms 1 and 2 and the DLR platform 4 used to be!Where did that platform numbering even come from? Was a nightmare combined with all of the underground, aswell as the "lesser-spotted platform 8 train"!
I'm told the excuse for this is that alows either station to be kept open if the other has to be closed. But surely an opening through the screen could have been provided for times when both stations are open?Euston was made even worse by forcing tube passengers out into the cold, rain & puddles when for fifty years there was a perfectly good entrance from the top of the TfL escalator bank straight into the main concourse. That entrance is tantalisingly in front of you but barred by a glass screen as you are forced outside, why?
Just another reason for Euston being far less good than it used to be.
I'd still rather spend an hour there than at Loughborough Junction though!