lostwin(m)
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The obvious issue with B&W photography, I had a sneaking suspicion it it was orange though - thanks for the extra insight.
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lostwin(m)
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Three 'one off' pictures from my collection, for various reasons.
12/05/85. Mid eighties but not BR, this is my only shot of steam. 'Butler Henderson' departs from Loughborough Central for Rothley on the Great Central.
12/05/85. Mid eighties but not BR, this is my only shot of steam. 'Butler Henderson' departs from Loughborough Central for Rothley on the Great Central.
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What splendid images. The B&W brings out the feel of the era. Thanks so much for posting. One wonders how much other historic stuff is sitting in peoples lofts...
What splendid images. The B&W brings out the feel of the era. Thanks so much for posting. One wonders how much other historic stuff is sitting in peoples lofts...
There was a supplement to pay...
lostwin(m)
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15/06/85. They were certainly around in fairly decent numbers at the time, but this is my only picture of a 58. 58023 passes through Leicester light engine.
lostwin(m)
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15/09/85. Finally, the single shot taken at Euston. 85014 has worked in the empty Pullman Inter-City stock ready for the evening return working (presumably this would be Manchester bound?).
lostwin(m)
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As a 17 year old, I needed to give some important consideration to my future, post A Levels. As such, in October '86, I travelled up to Edinburgh to visit the University. That took a couple of hours and then my shorter term priorities kicked in - a week long Scottish Rover ticket for bashing and photography 
. It's somewhat ironic that as I write this, I'm trying to get my now 17 year old daughter to focus on her next options!
I was never overly fussed about track bashing, but one or two days in particular seemed to have me well away from anything loco hauled, so presumably I was filling in some missing routes. These always tend to be under-photographed, so hopefully of interest.
24/10/86. Class 303, 303015 starts to take on passengers at Helensburgh Central.
. It's somewhat ironic that as I write this, I'm trying to get my now 17 year old daughter to focus on her next options!I was never overly fussed about track bashing, but one or two days in particular seemed to have me well away from anything loco hauled, so presumably I was filling in some missing routes. These always tend to be under-photographed, so hopefully of interest.
24/10/86. Class 303, 303015 starts to take on passengers at Helensburgh Central.
lostwin(m)
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24/10/86. A 314 unit, pulls into Westerton with a service for Motherwell.
lostwin(m)
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Still on the same day, but away from electrified tracks, a class 101 sees decent patronage at Cumbernauld. It's heading for Springburn.
lostwin(m)
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On to Lanark, and whilst this 303 is scheduled for Dalmuir, it will only make it as far as Motherwell before conking out.
lostwin(m)
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22/10/86. A couple of days earlier, 101329 is in charge of the 15.03 Edinburgh service at Bathgate.
Delighted to see you back in action lostwin. Your contributions just ooze nostalgia of the not so distant past. This particular photo is exceptional because it depicts an InterCity branded loco hauling a number of Southern Railway vans which themselves are based on SE&CR designs.
lostwin(m)
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Thank you, I appreciate the great feedback. I was choosing between one of two photos of this train, I went for this one as it gave a better view of the range of vans. I assumed that the wooden planked ones were the oldest, but this shot taken a few seconds earlier ahs the first van in better view - could that be even older?
eastwestdivide
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First van is an LMS full brake I think. But on enlarging, it looks to have a departmental number (6 digits, multi-letter prefix)? Still, it’s got a chalked destination possibly “Brighton”, typical of parcels use.
As for the IC liveried 73, they were pretty much common user - I’ve photos of one such shunting Rochester goods yard, and various others on freight of all sorts!
As for the IC liveried 73, they were pretty much common user - I’ve photos of one such shunting Rochester goods yard, and various others on freight of all sorts!
Gloster
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I suspect that it is in departmental service as I think that the LMS former BG was one of the first types to go in the massive cull of vehicles following the withdrawal of C&D traffic. It might be a stores van moving between depots.
eastwestdivide
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What do we reckon to this one on Paul Bartlett’s site, XDB977030:
LMS NPCS - parcels, CCT, BG, PMV, Horse box etc. YRV QQW | XDB977030_ex_M31368__m_
Paul Bartlett's Photographs
paulbartlett.zenfolio.com
Built 1949/50.
Gloster
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What do we reckon to this one on Paul Bartlett’s site, XDB977030:
A Crewe Stationery Stores van - all the markings are in the right places!LMS NPCS - parcels, CCT, BG, PMV, Horse box etc. YRV QQW | XDB977030_ex_M31368__m_
Paul Bartlett's Photographspaulbartlett.zenfolio.com
It could well be similar to that, but most of the vans of this type that went into departmental service would have the markings in the same position irrespective of purpose. I have to say that I wonder why on earth a large stationary stores van would go to Dover.
eastwestdivide
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Documentation/labelling etc for the train ferry traffic?
(Trying to think of a stationary/stationery joke, but failing!)
I might dig out my departmentals books at some point and play spot the stationery vans.
Didnt train ferry certified stock have anchor logos? I think its where they were tied to the deck of the ship.
eastwestdivide
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Yes it did have anchor logos, as well as tie-down lugs on the solebar, and a lowercase ‘f’ in the type code near the UIC number, such as Habfis for the big bogie Cargowaggon vans, or Hfs for the BR-built 4-wheel ferry vans (aka VIX under TOPS).
To be clear, I wasn’t suggesting the vehicle in question went on the ferries, just delivered blank forms etc printed in Crewe
Gloster
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The train isn’t a ferry service: it is most likely the return empty news vans and a stores van has been attached to it as the most convenient way to start its journey back to wherever it is going.
Western Sunset
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lostwin(m)
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Super pic! just the style I like. Anyone you know sat on that bench?
Sun Chariot
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Oh, those trolleys were a staple part of my youth
and I remember lugging a few to the platform end. 
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I seem to recall those being known as "Brutes"?
Gloster
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British Rail Universal Trolley Equipment. BRUTE by name and brute by nature in the opinion of someone who once caught his foot under one. I was told that I should always push them, never pull, but I was eighteen and knew it all.
Sun Chariot
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I thought those were the (usually) blue metal square caged ones, with small wheels; they could be coupled together to form a "trolley train" and they were moved about by a small yellow electric self propelled "tractor unit".
Gloster
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I hadn’t looked at the picture: the one in it appears to be one of the type that continued to be used by the Post Office long after BR was almost entirely using BRUTEs. BRUTEs were head high and had three sides of mesh, with the fourth having canvas or plastic closures. They could be coupled into long trains to move them about and, with a bit of care, to block passenger access or exits.
lostwin(m)
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A small extra selection of Class 50's - brutes or trolleys, you decide... (note the seamless transition!)
28/07/85. Paignton station was exceptionally well turned out this Summer, not sure if that was linked to the GWR 150 celebrations or if that was a regular thing. A similarly well turned out 50040 is charge of the 12.50 to Newton Abbot and shares platform space with the floral displays.
28/07/85. Paignton station was exceptionally well turned out this Summer, not sure if that was linked to the GWR 150 celebrations or if that was a regular thing. A similarly well turned out 50040 is charge of the 12.50 to Newton Abbot and shares platform space with the floral displays.
lostwin(m)
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01/08/85. This GWR 150 Exhibition Train toured the Region as part of the organised events. 50004 has the honours at Newton Abbot.
