Legolash2o
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It looks great!
However I'm intrigued, does the Brighton Main Line not count?
No problem.Great resource thanks.
Each individual segment of a route has its own ELR. Where the defined route has a change of mileage counting system (for example, by crossing a junction), either a new ELR is used, or a number is added after the three letter code to define each portion. By way of illustration, consider the Great Western Main Line from London Paddington to Bristol and thence to Taunton, Plymouth and Penzance. This entire route is MLN.
ELR and LOR (line of route) are both used, you would be hard pressed to find a planner using ELRs whereas a maintainer would probably look blankly at you if you didn't use one.I would say if the route from Paddington to Penzance via Bristol, Taunton & Plymouth is the same ELR then that can be classed as the GWML.Engineer's Line References introduction
A list of Engineer's Line References, used as unique identifiers on the GB railway networkwww.railwaycodes.org.uk
Thanks for that, it makes sense. ELR 'MLN' goes all the way through Bristol Temple Meads and right down to Penzance.Engineer's Line References introduction
A list of Engineer's Line References, used as unique identifiers on the GB railway networkwww.railwaycodes.org.uk
I would say if the route from Paddington to Penzance via Bristol, Taunton & Plymouth is the same ELR then that can be classed as the GWML.
Certainly from a passenger point of view, though Victoria is a latecomer from the 1860sBrighton Mainline according to Wikipedia splits off into two (London Bridge and Victoria). Is that correct?
If you‘re going to go by ELRs then VTB1 is clearly used to describe the Victoria to Brighton Route as far as Windmill Hill Jn. VTB2 as far as Quarry tunnels, VTB3 thereafter. The Redhill route has its own ELRs, “RED1/2”.Thanks for that, it makes sense. ELR 'MLN' goes all the way through Bristol Temple Meads and right down to Penzance.
That's quite a large route so it may take a bit of time for me to extend the GWML to Penzance.
Brighton Mainline according to Wikipedia splits off into two (London Bridge and Victoria). Is that correct?
Hi all,
I thought I would share some maps I've made showing all the main lines. Hopefully it's all correct, and not sure if it would be useful to share a zoomable interactive version of it.
Some sites had Sheffield to Leeds included in the Midland Main Line. Do people think I should remove it?Further North, I wouldn't describe Sheffield to Leeds as the Midland Main Line - though I suppose the first few miles were MR once.
Perhaps Sheffield to Moorthorpe, but Doncaster to Leeds is ECML, and Swinton to Doncaster was Great Central.Thanks everyone.
Some sites had Sheffield to Leeds included in the Midland Main Line. Do people think I should remove it?
Thanks everyone.
Some sites had Sheffield to Leeds included in the Midland Main Line. Do people think I should remove it?
What happened to that chap who drew that superb map with frequencies etc on
Perhaps Sheffield to Moorthorpe, but Doncaster to Leeds is ECML, and Swinton to Doncaster was Great Central.
I'd be tempted to keep it; the question is do NR think it part of the MML? Go with them, if in doubt.
The image at the bottom and others suggest MML ends at Sheffield so I will do the same.
The problem is that I can't seem to find an official source!![]()
Other sources do say the ECML goes up to Leeds and then to Skipton. If everyone agrees with that, then i'll draw it like that. I won't map the Great Central.
EDIT: Page 8 on the link below seems like a good one. But it suggests the route to Nottingham is part of the ECML?!?!
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/East-Coast-Main-Line-Route-Study.pdf
It depends what you are trying to capture as part of your map.
Right now, I am focusing the core lines and trying to find out exactly what are the core lines.
Later, can add an option to map the secondary lines such as Doncaster to Leeds, and the WCML branches but that requires finding all those routes and sourcing all the information, which I'm sure will be more of a pain.
Thanks for that, I'll look at those.
P.S. I've been looking for those links for ages as I've seen the network specification before and lost where it was located.