Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates

[karlbbb]

I would assume these slots are similar to the Kirkby slots that were taken and will be driver training/route testing? Hopefully we'll see Ormskirk get the trains in service in the coming weeks. Ormskirk route is just over twice as long as the Kirkby?

 

[D821]

This articles claims the 777 will be serving Ormskirk in time for the Grand National in April:

£500m Merseyrail trains to ferry Grand National passengers - Liverpool Business News

A full timetable is to be restored to the Merseyrail Kirkby line following a successful introduction of the new £500m train fleet - with Ormskirk coming next in time for the Grand National

lbndaily.co.uk

From Monday, March 6, a full 15-minute service will be reinstated. This means all trains on the Kirkby line from this date would be Class 777s. Sunday services will continue, as usually to operate every 30-minutes.

The focus will now shift on to the Ormskirk line, which will be the next part of the Merseyrail network to receive the new trains in time for the Aintree Grand National in April.

 

[ExRes]

How much of a service is practicable without the delivery of some more 777s?

 

[MattRat]

How much of a service is practicable without the delivery of some more 777s?

How many 777s are they short? Bear in mind they need 10 less till Southport is sorted.

 

[Skie]

How much of a service is practicable without the delivery of some more 777s?

Ormskirk and Kirkby but nothing else could be covered. The added complication being the Kirkby services will need to be all 777/1s when Headbolt Lane opens.

There will be some logistical fun!

 

[SuperLuke2334]

Ormskirk and Kirkby but nothing else could be covered. The added complication being the Kirkby services will need to be all 777/1s when Headbolt Lane opens.

There will be some logistical fun!

When is Headbolt Lane due to open? Just trying to work out timeframes of service entry.

 

[Skie]

When is Headbolt Lane due to open? Just trying to work out timeframes of service entry.

“Spring”

 

[mcnw35282]

When is Headbolt Lane due to open? Just trying to work out timeframes of service entry.

Not for a while yet I’d say. Think it’s been pushed back to summer due to delays with Scottish Power being able to get their feeder cable in due to poor ground conditions due to bad weather

 

[hotel_mode]

Are they all still out of service? Have a bit of free time tomorrow.

 

[Bertie the bus]

Are they all still out of service? Have a bit of free time tomorrow.

777018 was on one of the Kirkby diagrams today.

 

[Bevan Price]

777018 was on one of the Kirkby diagrams today.

I don't know how long it lasted. Around midday, the Kirkby service was running every 45 minutes, worked by a 6 coach 507 or 508 formation.
The 12:20 Liverpool Central to Kirkby was shown as a cancelled 4 coach formation. with an announcement about a train failure.

 

[Bertie the bus]

It was working this afternoon. I passed it at Sandhills at about 15:40.

There wasn't a 12:20 Liverpool Central - Kirkby. That slot was one of the planned ECS workings so it appears as though it was a PIS failure rather than a train one.

 

[ExRes]

Whether these actually take place remains to be seen of course, RTT are currently showing

Sunday - 1036 6Z76 Kings Norton OTPD to Crewe CS - 1422 6Q77 to Kirkdale CS - 1905 6Z78 to Crewe Down Refuge Siding

Monday - 1030 6Z79 Crewe Down Refuge Siding to Kings Norton OTPD

 

[stssts1985]

I'm in Liverpool next week and want to use a 777. I'm on RTT - does anyone know where can I see how many carriges are planned for each service? Is there a trick please?

 

[karlbbb]

I'm in Liverpool next week and want to use a 777. I'm on RTT - does anyone know where can I see how many carriges are planned for each service? Is there a trick please?

Current reporting seems to suggest Kirkby will be fully 777 from Monday 6th, so reasonably you can just aim for any of the services on that line and you should be in luck.

They'll all be 4-car services on the Kirkby line.

 

[Liverpool 507]

I'm in Liverpool next week and want to use a 777. I'm on RTT - does anyone know where can I see how many carriges are planned for each service? Is there a trick please?

Merseyrail don't offer RTT's know your train. All Kirkby services will be formed of 777s from Monday and are all booked for single units. The only multiple working on the Kirkby line is the last service of the day from Liverpool Central to Kirkby which is formed of two 507/8s which come empty from Hunts Cross.

 

[Spekejunction]

According to the Liverpool Echo.Software problem has been resolved..Three trains on Monday..

 

[urbophile]

Not for a while yet I’d say. Think it’s been pushed back to summer due to delays with Scottish Power being able to get their feeder cable in due to poor ground conditions due to bad weather

What bad weather? We've had no extreme winter weather so far (though I know some is expected next week); no snow and very little frost. Unless it's because the ground is too dry.

 

[Bertie the bus]

What bad weather? We've had no extreme winter weather so far (though I know some is expected next week); no snow and very little frost. Unless it's because the ground is too dry.

Excuses don't need to be true or even believable. They just need to distract from the real reason and the real reason is usually something organisations don't want to be made public. We are on the Class 777 thread afterall.

 

[PF19]

How come Headbolt Lane needs 777/1s?

Ormskirk and Kirkby but nothing else could be covered. The added complication being the Kirkby services will need to be all 777/1s when Headbolt Lane opens.

There will be some logistical fun!

Is there a list of currently delivered & pending consists?

 

[Skie]

How come Headbolt Lane needs 777/1s?

The 3rd rail isn’t being extended beyond Kirkby so needs the battery units to reach it.

 

[PF19]

The 3rd rail isn’t being extended beyond Kirkby so needs the battery units to reach it.

Oh interesting!
Sorry if that was public knowledge, I haven't paid much attention to this nor the Headbolt thread for a little while since leaving the area!

 

[gka472l]

How come Headbolt Lane needs 777/1s?


Is there a list of currently delivered & pending consists?

As far as I know, nearly all the first 18 (not 777011/17) have been delivered to the UK, plus 777049 & 777140 also delivered.

HTH

 

[Grumpy Git]

Only the UK rail industry could justify fitting batteries to a load of new EMU’s, when all it needs is a few hundred meters of third rail.

Bonkers economics.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Only the UK rail industry could justify fitting batteries to a load of new EMU’s, when all it needs is a few hundred meters of third rail.

Bonkers economics.

the batteries will find more use if/when they extend to Wigan, and other proposals.
See this as both a trial and removing the need for more 3rd rail, which is more dangerous.

 

[Pacef8]

Shotton, helsby neston all have large estates that would benefit their economy and the leisure industry with a direct service.

 

[Wezz]

HST power cars are booked to drag x2 Class 777 units from Crewe to Kirkdale tomorrow, they're booked to arrive at Sandhills at 16:40.

 

[MR-507508]

Has all the work been successfully completed at Liverpool Central, following this weeks closure, to enable the station to accommodate 8 car formations of the Class 777 units?

 

[Elecman]

Not for a while yet I’d say. Think it’s been pushed back to summer due to delays with Scottish Power being able to get their feeder cable in due to poor ground conditions due to bad weather

And no metering for the 2 station supplies, they haven’t even started the supply registration process yet so at least 6-8 weeks for that

 

[8A Rail]

As far as I know, nearly all the first 18 (not 777011/17) have been delivered to the UK, plus 777049 & 777140 also delivered.

HTH

Kirkdale C.S. = 001, 003, 004, 007, 008, 009, 010, 013, 015, 018, 049 and 140.
Crewe C.S. = 002, 005, 006, 012, 014, and 016.