Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates

[RichardTBC]

777006 & 777004 both at Crewe for modification work.
Passing Acton Bridge this morning https://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2020/August-2020/i-B8xSVZV/A

Mark

https://mark5812.smugmug.com

Thanks! Makes total sense now!

 

[73001]

As a matter of interest, would it be the same locomotives that brought 008/010 that took these two to Crewe. I suppose having a loco on either end makes it relatively straightforward to uncouple the newest ones from the barrier vehicles and sandwich these two for going back.

 

[DJH1971]

777006 & 777004 both at Crewe for modification work.
Passing Acton Bridge this morning https://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2020/August-2020/i-B8xSVZV/A

Mark

https://mark5812.smugmug.com

Any news when 777001 & 777002 will be joining us in the UK?

 

[M28361M]

5T77 has appeared in the system again. Second time lucky?

Sunday - Kirkdale-Kirkdale via Northern line:

Realtime Trains - 5T77 1921 Kirkdale C.S. to Kirkdale C.S.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Monday - Kirkdale-Kirkdale via Wirral:

Realtime Trains - 5T77 2013 Kirkdale C.S. to Kirkdale C.S.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Liverpool 507]

5T77 has appeared in the system again. Second time lucky?

Sunday - Kirkdale-Kirkdale via Northern line:

Realtime Trains - 5T77 1921 Kirkdale C.S. to Kirkdale C.S.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Monday - Kirkdale-Kirkdale via Wirral:

Realtime Trains - 5T77 2013 Kirkdale C.S. to Kirkdale C.S.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Won’t be running again I’m afraid

 

[MR-507508]

Won’t be running again I’m afraid

Why?

 

[507021]

Is there an Abrail-style list of carriage numbers available on the internet?

If you've not yet found one, I've got one on my blog.

 

[Liverpool 507]

Why?

There’s an update on Mersey Railways on Facebook stating the diagram is canned.

 

[yorkie]

Just a gentle reminder that thread is a Traction & Rolling Stock discussion to discuss Merseyrail Class 777s.

If anyone wishes to discuss infrastructure changes that are happening please create a new thread in the Infrastructure & Stations area; for speculation regarding changes that may or may not happen, please create a new thread in the Speculative Ideas section.

As always, feel free to use an existing alternative thread if there is one.

Thanks!

( Several posts have been moved here: https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...le-aintree-lines-reopen-to-passengers.208200/ ; I have also moved 2 posts into this thread: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/suggestions-for-enabling-a-rail-link-to-skelmersdale.208050/ )

 

[Pacef8]

They are still digging the foundations at port sunlight. The transformer box is craned in next weekend over Saturday night so they better get shovelling. Tree screening is also in the pipeline after they cut loads down to enable the trains 5g

 

[MR-507508]

Any updates on the Class 777 testing, seems to have stalled recently-no overnight testing and testing on Sunday and Monday cancelled the past two weeks?
Are they planned to be testing this Sunday evening on Northern line and Monday on Wirral line?

 

[Liverpool 507]

Any updates on the Class 777 testing, seems to have stalled recently-no overnight testing and testing on Sunday and Monday cancelled the past two weeks?
Are they planned to be testing this Sunday evening on Northern line and Monday on Wirral line?

There have been a few overnight possessions on the Southport and Ormskirk lines recently. Works in the Waterloo, Blundellsands and Hightown areas as well as tamping at Aughton Park and Ormskirk.

 

[TrainTube]

Any deliveries due the following week?

 

[Liverpool 507]

Any deliveries due the following week?

Not until mid September.

 

[MR-507508]

The testing (5T77) has appeared again on Sunday (for Northern line) and Monday evening (for Wirral line).

Realtime Trains - 5T77 1920 Kirkdale C.S. to Kirkdale C.S.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains - 5T77 2013 Kirkdale C.S. to Kirkdale C.S.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Could anyone please confirm if these are going ahead this week?

They have been cancelled the last 2 weeks.

 

[Grumpy Git]

As someone who lives relatively close to Cressington Station we received a "Railway Neighbour" letter yesterday from Network Rail advising us of "Signalling Improvement Work" in the coming weeks/months between Liverpool Central and Liverpool South Parkway.

This will be carried out during the night from 12/09/2020 to 27/11/2020.

Commissioning will then follow on the weekends of 10th/11th, 17th/18th & 24th/25th Jan 2021.

 

[M28361M]

Could anyone please confirm if these are going ahead this week?

They have been cancelled the last 2 weeks.

Over on the Mersey Railways group on Facebook, a member of Merseyrail staff has said that it will run tonight.

 

[Skie]

He said they’re going to try for the 3rd attempt, not that it was guaranteed to run. Not sure I’d name people from private groups here, either.

 

[Liverpool 507]

He said they’re going to try for the 3rd attempt, not that it was guaranteed to run. Not sure I’d name people from private groups here, either.

Tonight’s run is now cancelled. Tomorrow night on the Wirral is still going ahead as it stands.

 

[urbophile]

Does every single unit have to do a test run over the whole network, or is it just to check that dimensions are OK in which case if one fits, all should? If they do, it's going to take years at this rate before they are all ready to roll.

 

[Steelwheels]

Does every single unit have to do a test run over the whole network, or is it just to check that dimensions are OK in which case if one fits, all should? If they do, it's going to take years at this rate before they are all ready to roll.

Each unit is required to cover a minimum of 1,500 miles on test fault free before being signed over to Merseyrail, so covering the whole network would bring this mileage down.

 

[urbophile]

Yes but the reason for covering the whole network is presumably to make sure there are no problems with the positioning of signals, platforms etc. If that worked for one unit it would work for all. The total mileage of test running could be done on the most convenient stretches of line surely? I was just thinking, if there are so many delays to ensuring this all-line test, it would be a few years before every unit could be signed off.

 

[Pacef8]

On the realtime train thing for tonight what will change so we know the train is actually running unlike last week.

 

[Steelwheels]

Yes but the reason for covering the whole network is presumably to make sure there are no problems with the positioning of signals, platforms etc. If that worked for one unit it would work for all. The total mileage of test running could be done on the most convenient stretches of line surely? I was just thinking, if there are so many delays to ensuring this all-line test, it would be a few years before every unit could be signed off.

The units on Merseyrail can rack the mileage quite quickly, hence the 508's which are being used very sparingly as they are near mileage........

 

[Wrex2J78]

On the realtime train thing for tonight what will change so we know the train is actually running unlike last week.

A box will appear on the left hand showing activated with the date (today) and time activated. When you look on RTT about the departure time, a Realtime column will appear on the right hand side showing departure, passing times etc. If the train is running, you can follow it via Tracksy or Opentrain Train times which show signalling diagrams plus train descriptions.

 

[_toommm_]

A box will appear on the left hand showing activated with the date (today) and time activated. When you look on RTT about the departure time, a Realtime column will appear on the right hand side showing departure, passing times etc. If the train is running, you can follow it via Tracksy or Opentrain Train times which show signalling diagrams plus train descriptions.

But generally, if it’s activated two hours before it’s due to set off, it probably won’t run.

 

[Wrex2J78]

RTT shows 5T77 activated at 18.13. Wait and see.

As a further note, per RTT, the Derby Test Train left Derby RTC (ID 124X/1316) at 13.51. The schedule shows arrive Chester 01.28, then a full Wirral line sweep and back to Chester by 03.53. From experience of being woken up (pleasantly by two 73's top and tailed), the Derby RTC train has been very active on Merseyrail recently, presumably in connection with Class 777 testing.

 

[Pacef8]

Man that yellow rumble brick does make some noise.
5t777 not running again ?

 

[Camden]

The units on Merseyrail can rack the mileage quite quickly, hence the 508's which are being used very sparingly as they are near mileage........

What are the potential implications, options and timescales of not enough 777s being ready in time to take their place? Is it looking likely?

 

[Vespa]

They have to get an extension as its not worth doing another end of mileage exam for the class 507/508.