Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates

[Pete_uk]

Is there a platform that come out from the front that allows passengers to evacuate from one train to another given the front doors wont line up?

 

[Ribbleman]

If lines are converted does this mean all services on a line will be operated entirely by 777s from that point onwards or will we see a mixed fleet on the same line at some point? If Ormskirk/Kirkby services are 777s and Southport/Hunts Cross aren’t then we will see both running through the core section in the tunnel won’t we?

From what I know the intention is to totally convert each line in turn to operation by 777s though this policy will see mixed operation on Southport and Chester services due to the greater number of sets required and the need to keep 14 x 507s for use on those two lines until Network Rail or GBR complete the work required to allow 8-car 777 formations.

 

[MattRat]

I remember a poster who drives in the Netherlands said, AIR, that for brand new trains training lasted a week!

That's the Netherlands though. You have to factor in UK beauracracy

 

[507020]

Is there a platform that come out from the front that allows passengers to evacuate from one train to another given the front doors wont line up?

There’s some kind of walkway arrangement but I don’t know if it will be used by passengers.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Is there a platform that come out from the front that allows passengers to evacuate from one train to another given the front doors wont line up?

Presumably you'd go down to the track and back up?

 

[507020]

Presumably you'd go down to the track and back up?

There’s meant to be an elaborate walkway designed in Switzerland that connects the 2 off centre “detrainment” doors but there are no pictures of them.

 

[Skie]

"Electrical Front door combined with a sliding step for front evacuation and detrainment between two units (patented)"

Sliding step and barrier for train-to-train evacuations, ladder for evacuations to track.

 

[507020]

"Electrical Front door combined with a sliding step for front evacuation and detrainment between two units (patented)"

Sliding step and barrier for train-to-train evacuations, ladder for evacuations to track.

Yeah something like that. Is there any way we can get a picture of it being tested?

 

[yorkie]

Just a gentle reminder this is a Traction & Rolling Stock thread dedicated to Merseyrail Class 777

Thanks

 

[JBuchananGB]

I’ve just seen on Crewe Railcam a 777 apparently heading to Long Marston. Seems a strange place to go. According to RTT it’s just passing Norton Bridge. Anyone know why it’s going there?

 

[Covshire1]

I’ve just seen on Crewe Railcam a 777 apparently heading to Long Marston. Seems a strange place to go. According to RTT it’s just passing Norton Bridge. Anyone know why it’s going there?

It's being displayed as an exhibit at the upcoming Rail Live event.

 

[Skie]

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Merseytravel have announced that the next stage of testing will start from today, with trains out and about during normal service hours on the Northern line.

 

[Geeves]

It's being displayed as an exhibit at the upcoming Rail Live event.

Good news for any future extentions too

Stadler Exhibits Class 777 BEMU At Rail Live

Stadler showcases its first Class 777 BEMU at the first post-covid outdoor UK rail event, held between 16 and 17 June 2021 in Warwickshire.

www.railvolution.net

 

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Merseytravel have announced that the next stage of testing will start from today, with trains out and about during normal service hours on the Northern line.

Looks like someone jumped the gun as the post has now been removed/hidden.

 

[M28361M]

Looks like someone jumped the gun as the post has now been removed/hidden.

There have been paths showing up in RTT for what look like test runs on the Southport line all this week, but they have been cancelled every day so far. Below are the links to tonight's.

1838 Kirkdale CS to Sandhills
1852 Sandhills to Southport
1942 Southport to Sandhills
2035 Sandhills to Southport
2127 Southport to Sandhills
2210 Sandhills to Hall Road
2230 Hall Road to Sandhills

 

[Cheshire Rover]

There is a path tonight from Hooton to Helsby and return. No idea whether it is a trial or not.
1938 from Hooton. Listed as freight.
There is then a path from Hooton to Crewe Basford Hall at 2107. No idea if they are linked.
All pure speculation on my part...

 

[FrodshamJnct]

There is a path tonight from Hooton to Helsby and return. No idea whether it is a trial or not.
1938 from Hooton. Listed as freight.
There is then a path from Hooton to Crewe Basford Hall at 2107. No idea if they are linked.
All pure speculation on my part...

I’ve noticed those paths too but yesterday evening it was a Freightliner 66 light engine.

 

[jamesst]

There is a path tonight from Hooton to Helsby and return. No idea whether it is a trial or not.
1938 from Hooton. Listed as freight.
There is then a path from Hooton to Crewe Basford Hall at 2107. No idea if they are linked.
All pure speculation on my part...

Theres been a lot of light loco moves for non merseyrail training across the Wirral lines in recent weeks.

 

[Skie]

News article restored. Daytime testing (mileage accumulation) to begin today.

New trains testing steps up to the next level

New trains testing steps up to the next level

www.merseytravel.gov.uk

 

[M28361M]

777010 is indeed out and shuttling up and down the Southport line.

 

[Ribbleman]

Stretching the definition of daytime testing with just 2 return trips this evening between Sandhills and Southport, though no doubt numbers will increase in the weeks ahead. 777010 seen here pulling into Blundellsands & Crosby and then heading south past the original station building of the Liverpool, Crosby and Southport Railway of 1848.

 

[Techniquest]

That looks well funky, although those red lights in that formation still look weird to me!

 

[DJH1971]

Any more news of them entering service?

 

[stuart100100]

777010 is out testing again tonight, seen here at Hall Road

 

[jamesst]

Any more news of them entering service?

No time soon

 

[TheSel]

RTT is now showing a Monday - Friday training run for next week (w/c 5/7/21).

5S06 1532 Sandhills - Southport
5U06 1622 Southport - Sandhills

Links below:

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:S01682/2021-07-05/detailed

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:S01684/2021-07-05/detailed

 

[Skie]

These are testing/mileage accumulation runs, crew training won’t start until enough units have been accepted.

 

[jamesst]

These are testing/mileage accumulation runs, crew training won’t start until enough units have been accepted.

Crew training won't start until there is a union agreement regardless of how many units there are. Sadly that's a long way off.

 

[Skie]

Crew training won't start until there is a union agreement regardless of how many units there are. Sadly that's a long way off.

Aye, was just listing the hard milestones required to actually get a unit into service, not the ones involving the politics of the squishy things up front (and back, hopefully).

Things are definitely moving on that front, though.

 

[TheSel]

These are testing/mileage accumulation runs, crew training won’t start until enough units have been accepted.

Crew training won't start until there is a union agreement regardless of how many units there are. Sadly that's a long way off.

Thanks for the confirmation. Not that it'll make a lot of difference in any photos, but appreciate the point anyway.