Alexbus12
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That's more than what First wanted for the Manchester Scanias. Though I suppose them FTRs have been refurbished haven't they?
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Modern buses that have missed preservation
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That's more than what First wanted for the Manchester Scanias. Though I suppose them FTRs have been refurbished haven't they?
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SteveyBee131
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It does seem quite a lot for a 12 year old plastic bus. Like you say though, they were refurbished, and were probably relatively low mileage as they didn't stay in service for very long.
Jordan Adam
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Given that First were wanting £18K for Aberdeen's B10LAs that price doesn't surprise me... Although i do agree in both cases it does seem rather expensive, even when considering the scrap metal value.
Strathclyder
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Surprised no-one has brought up the sole right-hand drive Hispano Habit-bodied Volvo B7L (BX03 OVZ) yet. It was new as a demostrator, seeing use with First Glasgow and First York in 2005-06, before passing to Arriva Midlands (as their 3615) and latterly McGill's of Greenock (as 228 & latterly 2228 after the Arriva Scotland West acquisition was completed), being one of three B7Ls they operated and ironically enough, the last to be withdrawn.
There was a vid of it getting shunted around what appeared to be a scrappers yard after withdrawal that briefly did the rounds a while back; afterwards I heard McGill's themselves had set it aside for preservation. Given that nothing has come of the latter point at the time of writing, one can come to one of only two conclusions - it was eventually scrapped or it's sitting at the back of Johnstone depot (it's last operational base) waiting it's turn.
There was a vid of it getting shunted around what appeared to be a scrappers yard after withdrawal that briefly did the rounds a while back; afterwards I heard McGill's themselves had set it aside for preservation. Given that nothing has come of the latter point at the time of writing, one can come to one of only two conclusions - it was eventually scrapped or it's sitting at the back of Johnstone depot (it's last operational base) waiting it's turn.
Pretty sure a First GLasgow B10BLE has been preserved along with B7L
Strathclyder
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B10BLE SF51 YAD & B7L SA02 BZE have indeed been preserved, along with ex-Hutchisons B10BLE Y182 BGB. All of those are Wright-bodied machines however. @EnviroExplorer is making reference to Alexander-bodied B10BLEs making it into preservation. Thus far, none have.
EnviroExplorer
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Unfortunately it managed to get scrapped as I asked their MD on Twitter about it some time ago. To be fair it would have been an expensive project being such a rare vehicle, but a missed opportunity at that to have something so unique. Nothing that McGills couldn’t have done though, and just took it to an event or two each year.
Strathclyder
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Probably when weighing up the cost/benefit ratio, they didn't think it was worth it. While sensible from a business/financial perspective, it is nonetheless regrettable that it couldn't be saved; a missed opportunity as you say. It is of course well-established that the B7L wasn't Volvo finest hour, but it nonetheless deserves to be represented on the preservation/rally scene. We should be grateful that two ex-First Eclipse Metro-bodied examples (SA02 BZE & MV02 VEL) have escaped the cutters' torch and made it into preservation.
The rather rare Neoplans new to Merseybus then passed to Arriva and later went to some independents all missed out on preservation.
Also quite a number of Scania L113/Wright's Ultralow escaped Firsts grasp but most have been scrapped now, they rot to death and suffer from bad corrosion in the main wiring loom.
Also quite a number of Scania L113/Wright's Ultralow escaped Firsts grasp but most have been scrapped now, they rot to death and suffer from bad corrosion in the main wiring loom.
Strathclyder
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Yeah, there was indeed: FJ53 LZX. Built on the B7LA chassis (basically a articulated B7L) and a demostrator like BX03 OVZ, it first saw use in London, then in Edinburgh with Lothian & Ensignbus before ending up as a shuttle bus at Manchester Airport. The lack of pictures as of late would suggest that it's passed away to the scrapyards like OVZ.
North Somerset Coaches DAF/Ikarus 564KHT is being exported back to Hungary on Sunday. They still have R11WAL though
EnviroExplorer
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Few updates...
Formerly with Panther Travel, Dennis Lance SLF M211WHJ has entered service with the White Rose Bus Group
DAF SB200/Alexander ALX300 S467GUB new to Arriva Yorkshire is in fact in preservation, and is slowly being restored, despite some uncertainty of its existence
Formerly with Panther Travel, Dennis Lance SLF M211WHJ has entered service with the White Rose Bus Group
DAF SB200/Alexander ALX300 S467GUB new to Arriva Yorkshire is in fact in preservation, and is slowly being restored, despite some uncertainty of its existence
Jordan Adam
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The post you quoted specifically stated ALX300 bodied examples though, of which none have been preserved but a small number are still in active use.
ALX 300 , Dont FSE have those?
Jordan Adam
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No... Only B10BLE/ALX300s left in Scotland are W747NAS (Last noted dumped in PJ Travel, Clydebank's yard) and First 62190 (dumped at Caledonia).
All the surviving running examples (can't be more than 10-15 now) are in England and Wales.
KendalKing
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The Plaxton Primo, springs to mind.
One that was preserved but subsequently scrapped was Busways Metropolitan 499 (RCU499S).
This was retained by the company after the Metropolitan fleet was withdrawn as a semi-preserved vehicle, and was often used in service as well as being a regular attendee at rallies.
However, 499 disgraced itself spectacularly in 1994 when it suffered terminal engine damage en-route to a rally; this, and the rot for which Metropolitans were well-known, spelled the end of the road for the bus.
This was retained by the company after the Metropolitan fleet was withdrawn as a semi-preserved vehicle, and was often used in service as well as being a regular attendee at rallies.
However, 499 disgraced itself spectacularly in 1994 when it suffered terminal engine damage en-route to a rally; this, and the rot for which Metropolitans were well-known, spelled the end of the road for the bus.
Eyersey468
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Rubbish as they are it would be a shame if one didn't get preserved. AFAIK all EYMS's ones were scrapped
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