Most Depressing Stretch of Line on the Network

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brad465

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Bromley South to Victoria is almost always a dull/depressing experience: not much interest out the window and it doesn't take long to be stuck behind the stopping train in-front to add slow running to the mix.

A former example I can recall is the Higham and Strood tunnels before the reinforcement works in 2004, when the entire journey of around 2.5 miles had to be done at 20mph (compared to 70mph now), while seeing nothing but pitch black.
 

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Wrexham general to Wrexham Central bit
Another one Coventry to nuneaton .
Newcastle to Sunderland.
Stourbridge town to stourbridge junction on Perry mover .
Chingford also to London liverpool st.
Stratford to Richmond
Watford jct to London euston DC. Lines.
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Ah yes the WatEus line. I used to end up travelling on those EPB like units having just arrived in London from Strood on EPB units o_O.
 

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Personally any line that feels slow, no matter how scenic.

So stuff like the LO route to Cheshunt. Isn't the most depressing scenery-wise, but my god it's slow. That feels worse than any run-down old concrete block does to me.

I'd also lump Littleborough to Hebden Bridge in there, because of how many goddamn tunnels there are.
 

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Leeds to Wakefield Kirkgate, especially the stretch between Leeds and Woodlesford. Most of that Leeds to Sheffield line is aesthetically unpleasing.
 

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Wakefield to Knottingley?
I remember going to Knottingley back in the 80s. My grandparents lived just outside Leeds and I would travel up from Reading and get a West Yorkshire Metro Day Ranger thingy that would get me in on the bus from Otley and all around West Yorkshire on the train, including the HSTs from Leeds to Wakefield (not sure why they were a big deal given they were 10 a penny in Reading, but I remember they were).

Went to Knottingley on a 141 to see some 56s (being from Reading they were rare) and just remember a group of youths at Knottingley repeatedly bashing the bus shelter style waiting area with an actual baseball bat and throwing stones at the station name signs - assumedly the reason why so many "rough" stations had such pock marked signage.

Was only around 15 at the time. Guessing 1987/88 or so. Clearly scarred me for life! I hid at the end of the other platform til my bouncy 141 turned up. Did I imagine it or where they green and white/cream then?
 

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Went to Knottingley on a 141 to see some 56s (being from Reading they were rare) and just remember a group of youths at Knottingley repeatedly bashing the bus shelter style waiting area with an actual baseball bat and throwing stones at the station name signs - assumedly the reason why so many "rough" stations had such pock marked signage.

Was only around 15 at the time. Guessing 1987/88 or so. Clearly scarred me for life! I hid at the end of the other platform til my bouncy 141 turned up. Did I imagine it or where they green and white/cream then?
I'm happy to say that in 2006 when I lived in Nottingham, I was seeing a girl from Knottingley. I used that station twice a week without incident, including at night.

You were right, the 141 were green and cream back then. Hideous trains.
 

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I'm sure the above is a humorous gem, but I'm totally failing to get it. Help, anybody?
A series that was on watch called "Grimm" - it was set in Oregon a and based (very) loosely on some of the borther Grimm tails. I believe the publicity line was "sometimes fairy tales were a warning"

Portland in Oregon was chosen because Oregon was (is!) full of the stranger side of America. And very little referred to outside.

Until recently, it was illegal to pump gas yourself there and had to be done by an attndend.
 

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Birmingham to Wolverhampton for me...
As offered by others. It was once said that when the Royal Train passed through Black Country en route to Wolves, Queen Victoria was so appalled by the sight, she asked for the curtains to be closed.

On that basis, phase 1 of HS2 will probably be joining this thread eventually.
Here goes then! Of the 140 miles, 25 will be in tunnels and another 60 miles in cuttings. In total that's more than half the length, such was the necessity to keep the locals on side and the line from view. So much for taking your seat and watching the countryside go by.
 

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The most depressing stretch of the network is the stretch of line I walk along after I have disembarked from the train at Euston and then reach the ramps to the main concourse. But then I always find the circle line interesting (when not travelling in the peak hours), so it does get better. All the deep level tube lines are depressing.
 

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The line from Middlesbrough to Redcar gets my vote too. A few years ago I went on a car trip with a friend and we spent an evening at South Bank taking photos. The whole surrounding area was very bleak, it regularly appears near the top of the ‘worst place to live’ list. (the one based on facts, not opinions)
 
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Most depressing stretch for me relates to how it is now compated to how it was when I was a youngster.
Grimsby Town to Cleethorpes.
Pre-1990 - standard double track with full sizr trains (locomotive and coaches) operating daily Cleethorpes-London
Now - single track between the old Garden Street signal box to the approach into Cleethorpes, services only local and operated by DMU
I'm not sure I would class the services from Clee to Manchester Airport as 'only local' :E
 

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A series that was on watch called "Grimm" - it was set in Oregon a and based (very) loosely on some of the borther Grimm tails. I believe the publicity line was "sometimes fairy tales were a warning"

Portland in Oregon was chosen because Oregon was (is!) full of the stranger side of America. And very little referred to outside.

Until recently, it was illegal to pump gas yourself there and had to be done by an attndend.
Many thanks -- this re "Grimm", is stuff hitherto totally unknown to me. I figured that our Isle of Portland was not being referred to -- what with its railway line having been closed to freight in 1965, and passenger a dozen-odd years earlier. Was musing but without any clue, on the US's two cities of Portland -- one, cited by you, on the west coast; one on the east ditto.

Portland, Oregon, makes me think first and foremost about a recent-ish fantasy / alternative history series of novels by S.M. Stirling, the Dies the Fire cycle: premise, the fairly rapid death of 95% of the human race -- not through a pandemic, but thanks to assorted laws of nature suddenly ceasing to function -- basically, no more modern technology: civilisation collapses worldwide. The novel series (which for me personally, rather quickly "went bad" and became unreadable) tells of how things go for the survivors of the catastrophe, largely centred on those survivors located in Oregon. One character is a criminal lunatic and psychopath-to-the-extreme, whose given name is Norman, and who realises his lifelong dream by becoming a Norman-type (as in William the Conqueror) feudal tyrant -- his chosen capital for his hell-on-earth regime is Portland, Oregon: it's a scene which is indeed highly grim.
 

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I've always wondered what it is like for a train driver to take a train from the grime of London, and end their journey at somewhere light and scenic such as Penzance. The difference must be so stark.
Plymouth will serve as a (brief) reminder of London just under 2 hours from Penzance. Once on the Royal Albert Bridge out of Devon things pick up noticeably.
 

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Manchester Piccadilly to Stockport isn't very appealing
No because past Mcvities (I.e. through the nicer areas) the line is in a cutting! Should be cutting as far as Mcvities then opening out, culminating with the spectacular Stockport Viaduct from which one can see several miles each side.
 

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No because past Mcvities (I.e. through the nicer areas) the line is in a cutting! Should be cutting as far as Mcvities then opening out, culminating with the spectacular Stockport Viaduct from which one can see several miles each side.
And you also get decent views of the city one you’re past Levenshulme.
 

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The NLL 30 years ago was 'interexsting' mainly due to the amount of housi g and gardens it overlooked
It was also one of the most underused line. I recall many times seeing a 501 come in and you could have put all the pax into two compartmwents. Its wedged up to 11.00 at night every night ( well it is when ever i have used it) and only gets back to 1980s loadings at the from South Acton-Richmond, i normally go Kew Gdns- Highbury section, but when i do the last bit to Stratford it is still well used Not sure on how the Southern section on the 'Circle' fares
 

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Wrexham general to Wrexham Central bit
Another one Coventry to nuneaton .
Newcastle to Sunderland.
Stourbridge town to stourbridge junction on Perry mover .
Chingford also to London liverpool st.
Stratford to Richmond
Watford jct to London euston DC. Lines.
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Given it's timed for three minutes, I'm not really sure how you could have time to get depressed between Stourbridge Town and Stourbridge Junction. :E
 

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Given it's timed for three minutes, I'm not really sure how you could have time to get depressed between Stourbridge Town and Stourbridge Junction. :E
Now, hold on a minute! I will happily chuck the vile likes of Lye and Cradley Heath under a bus, but the joy of the Stour Town Branch is a (pretty steep) hill I will die on! Especially now you’ve got an all around view! Like being in the observation car of the California Zephyr!

... ish o_O
 
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The Cathcart circle lines for sure.

Glasgow Central - Glasgow Central via Cathcart is literally cut and cover throughout. Kings Park - Newton is running through little suburbs. It is very depressing. Same with the Maryhill line
 

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Now, hold on a minute! I will happily chuck the vile likes of Lye and Cradley Heath under a bus, but the joy of the Stour Town Branch is a (pretty steep) hill I will die on! Especially now you’ve got an all around view! Like being in the observation car of the California Zephyr!

... ish o_O
Well, I suppose I must admit I was more focused on the novelty of the PPM than the surroundings, maybe I should give it another go and report back.:E
 

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I haven't travelled on a huge amount of the UK network, but out of where I've gone I think the ECML between Finsbury Park and King's Cross is at the top of my list. It's the bush forest and the grafitti which do it for me. Like where you see bushes growing out of the lineside masonry and in between the running lines - no evidence of pride in the railway!
Also Peterborough station isn't likely to give a very good impression to travellers - a very bleak station IMO, albeit nicely greened up by the forests of bushes all around.
 

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