MPs have informal talks over forming new party

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Now that ghastly old douche bag Leadsom has been assassinated this must be the "Cleaning of the Augean Stables". My Greek mythology is a little rusty but I seem to recall that they had not been cleaned out for 30 years.

I think that the cleaning of the Augean stables was the fifth labour of Hercules, but where is the equivalent of Hercules in the year 2016 that could perform the comparative task in the area to which you so allude?

 

[ianhr]

I think that the cleaning of the Augean stables was the fifth labour of Hercules, but where is the equivalent of Hercules in the year 2016 that could perform the comparative task in the area to which you so allude?

Agree with you there Paul, the scale of the problem really does require a Hercules and there is not one in sight.

 

[backontrack]

Agree with you there Paul, the scale of the problem really does require a Hercules and there is not one in sight.

But when was the last Hercules in British politics?

 

[edwin_m]

But when was the last Hercules in British politics?

Churchill I would think. The situation of Britain in 1940 puts anything that has happened since truly into perspective, and had Churchill not existed we would quite possibly be living under the swastika today. But even Churchill didn't excel at solving the problems of the country in peacetime.

 

[backontrack]

But even Churchill didn't excel at solving the problems of the country in peacetime.

Yeah, that was more of Atlee's thing.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Yeah, that was more of Atlee's thing.

The results of the three general elections that followed the end of the Second World War showed great numbers of the electorate turning out to vote.

Thursday, 5th July 1945
Labour victory. Turnout 72.6%
Labour........395 seats (61.7%)
Con & UU....215 seats (33.6%)

Thursday, 23rd February 1950
Labour victory. Turnout 83.6%
Labour........315 seats (50.4%)
Con & UU....298 seats (47.7%)

Thursday, 25th October 1951
Con & UU victory. Turnout 81.9%
Con & UU....321 seats (51.4%)
Labour........295 seats (47.2%)

 

[DynamicSpirit]

The results of the three general elections that followed the end of the Second World War showed great numbers of the electorate turning out to vote.

Thursday, 5th July 1945
Labour victory. Turnout 72.6%
Labour........395 seats (61.7%)
Con & UU....215 seats (33.6%)

Thursday, 23rd February 1950
Labour victory. Turnout 83.6%
Labour........315 seats (50.4%)
Con & UU....298 seats (47.7%)

Thursday, 25th October 1951
Con & UU victory. Turnout 81.9%
Con & UU....321 seats (51.4%)
Labour........295 seats (47.2%)

For accuracy, it should be pointed out that those percentages are percentages of seats, NOT votes. And that in the 1951 election, Labour actually got more votes than the Conservatives/Unionists. The Conservative victory did not reflect popular vote, it was an artefact of our electoral system.

 

[HSTEd]

If a new party is created I will attempt to join it and infiltrate its upper policy echelons during the chaos of its creation.

I will then bring mass Shinkansen construction into the mainstream.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

For accuracy, it should be pointed out that those percentages are percentages of seats, NOT votes. And that in the 1951 election, Labour actually got more votes than the Conservatives/Unionists. The Conservative victory did not reflect popular vote, it was an artefact of our electoral system.

I thought that by putting the percentages immediately after the number of seats would be self-explanatory. However, I apologise if some people were confused by this and I assure you that was not the intention, as nowhere in my posting was any mention made of votes cast, just seats won.

 

[DynamicSpirit]

I thought that by putting the percentages immediately after the number of seats would be self-explanatory. However, I apologise if some people were confused by this and I assure you that was not the intention, as nowhere in my posting was any mention made of votes cast, just seats won.

No problem, I was just trying to clarify the post, I have no doubt your intentions were genuine. I was a tad confused for few seconds by the percentages because I'm so used to seeing % votes (whereas it seems very rare to give percentages of seats in the UK, so it's not something I'd expect). Then I saw the % lead for the Conservatives in 1951 and realized what it was. And of course 1951 is one of those elections where you really have to have both the seats and the votes to understand what happened.