That have me a good chuckle ! Thanks hahaIts like one of those memes isnt it. "In Russia, train cancels you!"
That have me a good chuckle ! Thanks hahaIts like one of those memes isnt it. "In Russia, train cancels you!"
Are we in Britain or China? The Daily Mail, Express seem to have you believing we're in the latter?!I do not want to offend anyone, but if a train cannot run because of a staff shortage and that staff member is not off sick or with other issues, that staff member should be fired on the spot. I had to fork out a huge amount of money yesterday to go an alternative route.
What about if that staff member is themself on a delayed earlier train?Yesterday when travelling from Leamington to Oakham at 6pm in the evening, multiple trains on this route got cancelled 'due to staff shortages'. I have never seen such a pathetic excuse for such incredible disruption on this network.
I do not want to offend anyone, but if a train cannot run because of a staff shortage and that staff member is not off sick or with other issues, that staff member should be fired on the spot. I had to fork out a huge amount of money yesterday to go an alternative route.
That reminds me, years ago one of our services was cancelled because the drivers seat got jammed in the highest position and the driver's feet couldn't reach the DSD pedal. The train was cancelled due to "short staff with no taller staff available to step up"."Staff Shortages"? Just employ taller staff. Or get the short ones a booster seat or similar.
(This post may contain traces of not taking the problem seriously. Mea Culpa.)
What a daft comment. The staff shortage is because there is no member of staff available. You can't fire someone who isn't there.
You cannot fire someone who doesn't exist.Yesterday when travelling from Leamington to Oakham at 6pm in the evening, multiple trains on this route got cancelled 'due to staff shortages'. I have never seen such a pathetic excuse for such incredible disruption on this network.
I do not want to offend anyone, but if a train cannot run because of a staff shortage and that staff member is not off sick or with other issues, that staff member should be fired on the spot. I had to fork out a huge amount of money yesterday to go an alternative route.
Quite often that won't be a decision that's been made, as there won't be enough time and staff to rewrite diagrams. The cancellations will literally be the trains that aren't covered, plus the knock-on effects, rather than a deliberate decision to cancel trains on a certain routeA decision to totally abandon line 1 to run a full service on line 2 is the problem. Two certain operators I can think of have form for doing this - often abandoning longer distance intercity type services to protect the local services in their home city.
If passenger numbers on line 1 are so low, then the impact would be less and bustitution is fairly acceptable, but when passenger numbers are the same or higher - then the operator has made the wrong decision.
On the subject of last minute cancellations, this is a difficult one - from a short term planning perspective, this could be caused by disruption on another service utilising the spare driver/guard or a resources manager hoping to get an overtime volunteer only to get none.
Disagree. Cut & paste diagrams are often thrown together in minutes. All trains are originally diagrammed - it's just which one they dump that causes the problem.Quite often that won't be a decision that's been made, as there won't be enough time and staff to rewrite diagrams. The cancellations will literally be the trains that aren't covered, plus the knock-on effects, rather than a deliberate decision to cancel trains on a certain route
They might be able to throw a diagram together quickly, the main question is if you have the right staff member with the required route knowledge, traction competency and start/ finish times to cover said diagram... E.g. I only sign metro routes. Even if I'm spare and it fits within my day, I would be unable to cover an intercity service.Disagree. Cut & paste diagrams are often thrown together in minutes. All trains are originally diagrammed - it's just which one they dump that causes the problem.
It was 2 consecutive trains cancelled (18.40 and 19.40) due to train crew shortage, not signalling staff.A series of trains cancelled due to staff shortage suggests it is not train crew that's the problem - more likely a signal box. (It has happened before when a signalman has been taken ill while on duty and it has taken a while to get a relief to take over.)
You need people to copy and paste the diagrams, after checking whether drivers are compatible with the new diagramsDisagree. Cut & paste diagrams are often thrown together in minutes. All trains are originally diagrammed - it's just which one they dump that causes the problem.
“Fired on the spot”….are you for real?Yesterday when travelling from Leamington to Oakham at 6pm in the evening, multiple trains on this route got cancelled 'due to staff shortages'. I have never seen such a pathetic excuse for such incredible disruption on this network.
I do not want to offend anyone, but if a train cannot run because of a staff shortage and that staff member is not off sick or with other issues, that staff member should be fired on the spot. I had to fork out a huge amount of money yesterday to go an alternative route.
At my TOC driver, conductor & catering training and recruitment has never stopped. Train operators would not get Rest Day Working agreements from ASLEF if driver vacancies weren't filled.Isn’t the staff shortage occurring because the train operators aren’t allowed to employ any more staff by the government? If anyone needs firing, it’s said government.
with the greatest of respect, and the utmost impartiality, it is not the railway staff who deserve your ire, rather it is the somehow-still-in-power Tory government who control the pursestrings who have frustrated spending, overtime agreements and recruitment.if a train cannot run because of a staff shortage and that staff member is not off sick or with other issues, that staff member should be fired on the spot
Firing someone who doesn't exist on the spot for not showing up? The employment lawyers will have a field day with that one.Yesterday when travelling from Leamington to Oakham at 6pm in the evening, multiple trains on this route got cancelled 'due to staff shortages'. I have never seen such a pathetic excuse for such incredible disruption on this network.
I do not want to offend anyone, but if a train cannot run because of a staff shortage and that staff member is not off sick or with other issues, that staff member should be fired on the spot. I had to fork out a huge amount of money yesterday to go an alternative route.
Soviet Russia, as I remember it!Its like one of those memes isnt it. "In Russia, train cancels you!"
And firing people will reduce the number of available staff further presumably. Nicely thought out plan!Yesterday when travelling from Leamington to Oakham at 6pm in the evening, multiple trains on this route got cancelled 'due to staff shortages'. I have never seen such a pathetic excuse for such incredible disruption on this network.
I do not want to offend anyone, but if a train cannot run because of a staff shortage and that staff member is not off sick or with other issues, that staff member should be fired on the spot. I had to fork out a huge amount of money yesterday to go an alternative route.
Somehow I suspect the original poster won't see the Tory government as a negative.with the greatest of respect, and the utmost impartiality, it is not the railway staff who deserve your ire, rather it is the somehow-still-in-power Tory government who control the pursestrings who have frustrated spending, overtime agreements and recruitment.
Even better is that it will be in a two-fold manner. Not only will there be less staff to schedule but those who they do have will likely be taking industrial action....And firing people will reduce the number of available staff further presumably. Nicely thought out plan!
Anyone who thinks all the problems will disappear when Labour come to power will be very disappointed indeed.with the greatest of respect, and the utmost impartiality, it is not the railway staff who deserve your ire, rather it is the somehow-still-in-power Tory government who control the pursestrings who have frustrated spending, overtime agreements and recruitment.
Signal boxes are rare these days surely.A series of trains cancelled due to staff shortage suggests it is not train crew that's the problem - more likely a signal box. (It has happened before when a signalman has been taken ill while on duty and it has taken a while to get a relief to take over.)
Anyway no reason the TOC can't call in a sub from the extra board.
Signal boxes are rare these days surely.
Anyway no reason the TOC can't call in a sub from the extra board.
Anyone who thinks all the problems will disappear when Labour come to power will be very disappointed indeed.
Probably best to drive next time.
As a paying passenger, you are nothing more than a nuisance. The railway doesn't want your custom. So don't give it them.
Yesterday when travelling from Leamington to Oakham at 6pm in the evening, multiple trains on this route got cancelled 'due to staff shortages'. I have never seen such a pathetic excuse for such incredible disruption on this network.
I do not want to offend anyone, but if a train cannot run because of a staff shortage and that staff member is not off sick or with other issues, that staff member should be fired on the spot. I had to fork out a huge amount of money yesterday to go an alternative route.