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bcarmicle
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Many thanks.
In general, yes you can break your journey. Please note that single use tickets cost €1 extra from a TVM unless you have an OV Chipkaart. A way of getting around this is to use an e ticket. Please note you have to show this in the official app or print at home and carry ID. It's not quite as flexible as a GB e ticket. I'm unsure how contactless would handle this. You're quite right tickets don't have times on them and by and large advances aren't a thing in the Netherlands. Also peak times don't apply to most singles, however there are subscription discounts and special offer tickets to which peak times very much apply, this depends on the offer being taken advantage of I believe.
Off peak = daluren / Dal. There's a subscription product that allows you to take advantage of off peak pricing that may be worth it. It's from memory surprisingly cheap.
Peak time = in de spits
But as I say a typical 'enkele reis' single journey ticket won't have time restrictions. Note there's no advantage to buying in advance unless you want to print at home. Even then you can buy at the latest point you can physically print your ticket.
Off peak = daluren / Dal. There's a subscription product that allows you to take advantage of off peak pricing that may be worth it. It's from memory surprisingly cheap.
Peak time = in de spits
But as I say a typical 'enkele reis' single journey ticket won't have time restrictions. Note there's no advantage to buying in advance unless you want to print at home. Even then you can buy at the latest point you can physically print your ticket.
If using a single ticket (e-ticket or disposable) yes you can break and resume your journey but must complete it same day.
If using contactless or an Ov-chipkaart each touch in and out will usually be treated as individual journeys. As I understand it the system is fully distance based with a small base fee per journey.
If using contactless or an Ov-chipkaart each touch in and out will usually be treated as individual journeys. As I understand it the system is fully distance based with a small base fee per journey.
Beachcomber
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Different rail journeys are treated as a single trip when there is less than 35 minutes between check-out and check-in. In this case, a base fee is not charged again, and the "degressive" kilometre fee is applied throughout - making longer trips relatively less expensive. This also applies to return journeys, provided of course the stay is not longer than 35 minutes.
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DanielB
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You cannot get around that with an OV-chipcard as you cannot load a ticket on your chipcard. Only way to avoid the 1 euro charge is buying an e-ticket.
Exception are bike and dog tickets which can be loaded on an OV-chipcard provided there isn't NS Flex on it.
Nowadays there's NS Voordeel on some routes, which may offer up to 60% discount when booking in advance. Those tickets have time slots on them, but as long as your break of journey is short enough to allow complete the trip within the timeslot break of journey would still be possible.
Dal Voordeel is € 67,20 per year and can be cancelled after one month. The version using credit on the card is probably easiest from the UK.
Indeed worth it's money: you get 40% off each off peak journey and an advantage is that the time of checking in counts, so doing this just before peak hours will allow to complete your trip with discount (provided that you don't change operator)
DanielB
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Contactless works the same way as the OV-chipcard however, so any break of journey longer than 35 minutes means you'll start a new trip. So only with an e-ticket or disposable chipcard from the ticket machine a longer break of journey is possible without losing the "long distance discount" which the degressive fare gives you.
There's rather a minimum fare of €2.60 in 2nd and €4.42 in 1st class for distances up to 8 km.
DanielB
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8 fare units, not km, it is.
A fare unit approximately is a kilometre, but there are several exceptions. For example all trips from Rotterdam to Amsterdam have the same number of fare units, despite the different distances via the four available routes (via Leiden-Haarlem, Leiden-Schiphol, HSL-Schiphol or Breukelen).
See the fare unit map and the list of fares (starting at page 6). Note that regional operators may have their own fare system. But for through fares from NS to regional lines you'll never pay more than the maximum number of fare units, which is 200.
So when you've travelled 190 fare units with NS, the regional operator will charge their fare for a maximum of 10 fare units, regardless of the actual distance travelled (exception is Arriva which has a maximum of 250 fare units).
Beachcomber
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Fares for non-NS regional (tendered) rail, metro, tram and bus services are set by the relevant authorities and differ by region. These tariffs consist of a base fare, generally just over one euro, and a true kilometre fare of about 20 eurocents. Again, when transferring between train services, the base fare is omitted and the degressive long distance fare for NS trains continues to apply.
DanielB
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With one exception: the Arriva routes from Leeuwarden and Groningen use the same fare system as NS uses. A somewhat hybrid version is used at the Amersfoort - Ede=Wageningen railway where a fixed fare for the first 8 kilometres is used and a kilometre-fare for anything above 8 km. For an overview of base- and kilometre-fares countrywide: https://wiki.ovinnederland.nl/wiki/OV-chipkaart
dutchflyer
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A -minor- prob with this ¨theoretical´ questions is that other factors may also play havoc. ANY subscription is only available on a personal chipcard=with your name +foto on it, hence need to be produced and this is not impossible but not that easy-even less for the Brits who tend to favour non-IBAN payment methods.
Also: if ONLY using NS the MAX is for a distance of 200 KMs.
IF wanting some serious lots of train travel in 1 day-and even more on bustram:
there is still the Holland Travel Ticket, only as on a 1-time chipticket from machine, cost is a hefty 70€ for full day but reduced to 46€ for OFF-peak 1 day (no peaks on sat/sun)-can be bought advance from NS-machine -ONLY payment by bank/credit card possible.
For the larger area around AMSterdam there is also a 1 or 3 day travelticket for all means.
With some searching all this is of coruse also to be found on ns.nl
Also: if ONLY using NS the MAX is for a distance of 200 KMs.
IF wanting some serious lots of train travel in 1 day-and even more on bustram:
there is still the Holland Travel Ticket, only as on a 1-time chipticket from machine, cost is a hefty 70€ for full day but reduced to 46€ for OFF-peak 1 day (no peaks on sat/sun)-can be bought advance from NS-machine -ONLY payment by bank/credit card possible.
For the larger area around AMSterdam there is also a 1 or 3 day travelticket for all means.
With some searching all this is of coruse also to be found on ns.nl