New OeBB NightJet connections to Brussels

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  1. tasky

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    This could have implications for British travellers going to Vienna as well – what routes could it open up?

    https://www.politico.eu/article/nig...9issWJo9cUAf6plU97BtTg_SIQkWebTsZZBJHXeren5zQ

     
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  3. Alfonso

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    I guess the only route would be via Cologne? Would that mean a temporary end for Düsseldorf?
     
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    Also it is still sketchy at the moment, but suggestion on-line is Sunday/Wednesday nights to Brussels and Monday/Thursday nights back to start. Clearly targeting those that need to travel out and back for meetings at the various institutions in Brussels e.g. on a most of the week basis.
     
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    Possibly a portion, they use Dusseldorf for the cars so would presumably retain it. OBB Taurus can't reach Belgium so will need a change of loco anyway so a portion doesn't make it that complicated.
     
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    That would make sense, though currently the rolling stock rotation on Vienna/Innsbruck is on a triangular basis to ensure stock gets back to Vienna for servicing so it needs to fit into that. Also share need for the ARZ service to be retained no matter for Düsseldorf, otherwise you sabotage your existing base.
     
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    Yes this is true, though I think probably all journeys would become significantly cheaper as it removes the need for an ICE/Thalys ticket. If the pricing model is the same as as other OeBB routes it will be no cheaper to go from Brussels to Vienna than Cologne
     
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    Though actually, thinking of a journey from London, I suppose people might be using the London Spezial ticket which is often as cheap as the Eurostar anyway

    Good news for Brussels though
     
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    Agree it's all speculation, but a split or alternate days service sound reasonable options, with the Dusseldorf portion/nights having their start extended/reinstated back to Amsterdam later.
     
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    As I said on Twitter - they need to reinstate, depending on route, either the "Orient-Expreß" (I think strictly the Direct-Orient-Expreß) or "Donauwalzer" names. Only a temporary absence for those two great historic trains.
     
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    Not really the same thing, but in the new timetable "Donauwalzer" will be used for Hamburg - Wien train pair.
     
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    Donau Kurier was used ob the Ruhr to Wien services in the past.
     
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    That's the wrong historic name:

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostende-Wien-Express

    confirms, as I thought, that the Donauwalzer was classically the train pair EN 224/225, previously Oostende-Wien-Express. I can't remember what Hamburg-Wien was, but it wasn't that. Good to see a classic name back, though, even if for the wrong train!

    The Donau-Kurier was the separate train (later one of the CNLs) to the Ruhr but not beyond.
     

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