Off peak and super off peak

[Katy Cheung]

Hi All,

This point has always confused me and caused worry on the train journey home.

I'm looking to book a return from Durham to Twickenham (via kings cross). What are my restrictions for the return journey if I booked a super off peak return or a off peak return?

Thanks in advance

 

[yorkie]

In either case, any train from Twickenham to London.

Then you are restricted by departure from London towards Durham.

Off Peak Return:

Not valid on trains timed to depart:

London Terminals (except as shown below)
Mondays to Thursdays after 06:44 and before 07:59 or after 15:57 and before 17:46 - or Fridays after 06:44 and before 07:59;
London Liverpool Street after 04:29 and before 09:30;
London St Pancras International after 04:29 and before 08:47 or after 16:34 and before 18:47;
London Euston after 04:29 and before 09:26 or after 15:00 and before 18:45;
Stevenage Mondays to Thursdays after 07:14 and before 08:15 or after 16:17 and before 17:58 - or Fridays after 07:14 and before 08:15
Luton or Luton Airport Parkway after 04:29 and before 09:01 or after 16:25 and before 18:59;
Bedford after 04:29 and before 09:01;
Watford Junction after 04:29 and before 09:38 or after 14:38 and before 18:38;
Milton Keynes Central after 04:29 and before 09:51.

Super Off Peak Return:

Not valid on trains timed to depart:

London Terminals (except as shown below) after 02:59 and before 09:06 and after 14:59 and before 18:59 (18:15 on Fridays);
London Liverpool Street after 04:29 and before 09:30 or after 16:28 and before 18:35;
London St Pancras International after 04:29 and before 10:29 and after 15:15 and before 18:59;
London Euston after 04:29 and before 09:26 and after 15:00 and before 18:45;
Stevenage after 02:59 and before 09:19 and after 15:07 and before 19:01 (18:35 on Fridays);
Luton or Luton Airport Parkway after 04:29 and before 10:26;
Bedford after 04:29 and before 10:30;
Watford Junction after 04:29 and before 09:38 and after 14:38 and before 18:38;
Milton Keynes Central after 04:29 and before 09:51.

 

[Katy Cheung]

So what times am I allowed to travel on each of the tickets?

 

[Katy Cheung]

In either case, any train from Twickenham to London.

Then you are restricted by departure from London towards Durham.

Off Peak Return:


Super Off Peak Return:

Thanks

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

So what times am I allowed to travel on each of the tickets?

Monday to Friday, the first train from Durham you can take with an Off-Peak Return to Twickenham is the 07:42. You can take this train or any train after it. With a Super Off-Peak Return to Twickenham it's the 08:38 that's the first valid service.

On the way back to Durham, from Monday to Friday, in the morning with an Off-Peak Return the only trains you can't take are the 07:00 (changing at York) and the 07:30. In the morning with the Super Off-Peak ticket the first train you can take is the 09:30.

In the evening, from Monday to Thursday, with the Off-Peak ticket you can't take any train between (inclusive) the 16:00 and the 17:30. And with the Super Off-Peak ticket you can't take any train between (inclusive) the 15:00 and the 18:30.

In the evening, on Fridays, with the Off-Peak ticket there are no restrictions. And with the Super Off-Peak ticket you can't take any train between (inclusive) the 15:00 and the 17:30.

On Saturdays, Sundays and bank holidays you can take any train in either direction with either the Off-Peak or Super Off-Peak ticket.

Note that the times I've quoted are for non-overtaken trains or itineraries; there may be other trains which your ticket is or isn't valid for, but I've disregarded those as they're not relevant to a journey to/from Durham.

The easiest thing, to be honest, is simply to put it all into a journey planner and see what it spits out.

 

[Katy Cheung]

Monday to Friday, the first train from Durham you can take with an Off-Peak Return to Twickenham is the 07:42. You can take this train or any train after it. With a Super Off-Peak Return to Twickenham it's the 08:38 that's the first valid service.

On the way back to Durham, from Monday to Friday, in the morning with an Off-Peak Return the only trains you can't take are the 07:00 (changing at York) and the 07:30. In the morning with the Super Off-Peak ticket the first train you can take is the 09:30.

In the evening, from Monday to Thursday, with the Off-Peak ticket you can't take any train between (inclusive) the 16:00 and the 17:30. And with the Super Off-Peak ticket you can't take any train between (inclusive) the 15:00 and the 18:30.

In the evening, on Fridays, with the Off-Peak ticket there are no restrictions. And with the Super Off-Peak ticket you can't take any train between (inclusive) the 15:00 and the 17:30.

On Saturdays, Sundays and bank holidays you can take any train in either direction with either the Off-Peak or Super Off-Peak ticket.

Note that the times I've quoted are for non-overtaken trains or itineraries; there may be other trains which your ticket is or isn't valid for, but I've disregarded those as they're not relevant to a journey to/from Durham.

The easiest thing, to be honest, is simply to put it all into a journey planner and see what it spits out.

That's really helpful.thanks so much