Original 1972 Merseyrail proposals

[Bletchleyite]

There's a set of photos I have seen in one of the closed Facebook groups which shows the void beyond that wall and the third arch. In a nutshell - nothing much, other than a partly excavated void (named the Dead End Vent Heading) propped up by old sleepers and a couple of brick pillars. But it does suggest that the Victorian planners maybe had something in mind for that third arch. Remember those same planners future proofed the alignment of the CLC lines with the MR, so its not unfeasible to suggest it was a way of future proofing the station.

You wouldn't happen to know which group it was, would you? I'm in a few of the Merseyside rail history Facebook groups, if I knew which one I could go on the hunt.

I have seen a "blueprint" (in so much as such a thing was used back then) of the planned station before it was built, it showed that arch but not where it went. The station itself was planned to be two tracks through the wide tunnel (one of which was a locomotive siding) and one through the narrow one with a single narrow island platform between the single and double tunnels. It's in the Public Registry Office at Kew if I recall, I went there with my Dad as he does family research and just went round looking up random things I was interested in.

 

[emoaconr]

You wouldn't happen to know which group it was, would you? I'm in a few of the Merseyside rail history Facebook groups, if I knew which one I could go on the hunt.

I have seen a "blueprint" (in so much as such a thing was used back then) of the planned station before it was built, it showed that arch but not where it went. The station itself was planned to be two tracks through the wide tunnel (one of which was a locomotive siding) and one through the narrow one with a single narrow island platform between the single and double tunnels. It's in the Public Registry Office at Kew if I recall, I went there with my Dad as he does family research and just went round looking up random things I was interested in.

I believe it is the CLC group. Some very informative members on there!

 

[Class142sbad]

Just looking into Merseyrail recently and I have been wondering what the plan was for that tunnel from Liverpool Central? Edge Hill spur I think it's called

 

[D821]

Just looking into Merseyrail recently and I have been wondering what the plan was for that tunnel from Liverpool Central? Edge Hill spur I think it's called

Victoria Tunnel?

Victoria Tunnel (Liverpool) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The article says that:

In May 2007 it was reported that Merseytravel Chief Executive Neil Scales had prepared a report outlining the possibilities for reuse of the Wapping tunnel and Victoria tunnel with the latter to aid in redeveloping the north shore area of Liverpool.

Merseytravel safeguards the tunnel for future use.

There's also a bit about a former mayor claiming the tunnel could be used for a new station near the Knowledge Quarter, but I think that can be disregarded as a politician talking hot air.

 

[Bletchleyite]

The Wapping Tunnel is more likely the one that will be used if the City Line and Northern Line are to be linked up. They would be joined to the Ormskirk and/or Kirkby terminators.

 

[Springs Branch]

Just looking into Merseyrail recently and I have been wondering what the plan was for that tunnel from Liverpool Central? Edge Hill spur I think it's called

For those who might not know their Wapping from their Waterloo, this post from 2014 . . .

Edge Hill Spur

I've had a fair dig around and couldn't find a thread on this. If I missed one, please point me in the right direction. Seems to me that electrification of the Liverpool-Manchester and Liverpool-Wigan make the argument for the Edge Hill Spur (the line connection between the aboveground line...

www.railforums.co.uk

. . . had a map showing the relationship between the Victoria and Wapping tunnels mentioned above, existing Merseyrail routes and couple of the Edge Hill Spur proposals.