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In France they used to rent hotel rooms by the hour, and still do. These days they genteelly talk about 'microstays', but couples who couldn't sleep together anywhere else used to resort to the cinq à sept (5 to 7 PM) in a hotel.
That must have implications for the train managers' route competency?I don’t think that’s happened for over a year now, as it ended when the pandemic started last March, and I’m not sure when it will come back (if ever- it will save a fortune in hotel bills). The sleeper hosts and train managers are currently swapping over at Lockerbie each night (or Alnmouth if an East Coast diversion), with London-based staff working between London and Lockerbie/Alnmouth and Scottish staff north thereof. I don’t believe any of the GBRF drivers who work the sleeper did lodging turns anyway, so their turns haven’t changed much.
Fair enough. However, would you rather have a driver at the controls of a moving train who has had a power nap in the safety of a messroom or a driver have a micro-sleep whilst driving the train. I believe there have been one or two incidents that have been affected by such causal factors.I mean you're technically on-duty so I never would. Also I feel it would potentially fatigue you for your first job after a nap. I wouldn't class it as a great sleep considering the seating in most mess rooms. Surely I'd dim / turn off the lights and not do much / listen to music but wouldn't nap. But that's all part of shift fatigue I guess each to their own.
As have I - and at the Park Inn at Brussels Midi.I remember once travelling on the sleeper from Edinburgh to London overnight on 23rd/24th December.
As there were no return services on 24th/25th December, there was a crew change at Preston, with the Scottish crew working the train between Edinburgh and Preston, and the London crew between Preston and London.
When I used to work at Euston and Kings Cross, I would regularly see sleeper staff coming into and out of the various hotels in the area.
I have also seen Eurostar staff use the Premier Inn in York Way, Kings Cross.
I've seen them at the Jurys Inn in Edinburgh too. London crew I guess.I used to stay at the Jury’s Inn at Islington quite a bit with work and I’d always see a crew of First staff checking in around 8am on a morning so I assumed they’d have been working the Sleeper.
Fair enough. However, would you rather have a driver at the controls of a moving train who has had a power nap in the safety of a messroom or a driver have a micro-sleep whilst driving the train. I believe there have been one or two incidents that have been affected by such causal factors.
Yes, that’s right. That’ll be the London crew off the Lowlander as well as the London-based train manager from the Highlander and (I think) the Fort William portion attendant(s) who is/are relieved by a Fort William-based one at Edinburgh.I've seen them at the Jurys Inn in Edinburgh too. London crew I guess.
The crew from the Fort only lodge in London. If they go to Edinburgh, they return north in the same shift.Yes, that’s right. That’ll be the London crew off the Lowlander as well as the London-based train manager from the Highlander and (I think) the Fort William portion attendant(s) who is/are relieved by a Fort William-based one at Edinburgh.
I mean you're technically on-duty so I never would. Also I feel it would potentially fatigue you for your first job after a nap. I wouldn't class it as a great sleep considering the seating in most mess rooms. Surely I'd dim / turn off the lights and not do much / listen to music but wouldn't nap. But that's all part of shift fatigue I guess each to their own.
Ah, that's where they go to now, is it?I have also seen Eurostar staff use the Premier Inn in York Way, Kings Cross.