Paris Métro stock

[43303_43058]

Hi all,

Currently planning a Paris trip in Xmas time- was wondering how withdrawals of the MP59 from the 11 and MP73 from the 6 are going. Will they last till Xmas?

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[D6130]

When I was in Paris at the beginning of last month line 11 seemed to be about a 50-50 mix of MP59 stock and their new replacdements. Can't tell you about line 6 as I didn't use it.

 

[Myb]

You should be good on both lines. M6 is still mostly MP73, M11 is mostly MP14 with 8 MP59 remaining which should run well into 2024.

 

[Purple Train]

You should be good on both lines. M6 is still mostly MP73, M11 is mostly MP14 with 8 MP59 remaining which should run well into 2024.

How far into 2024 should they last? There's a possibility I might end up in France next autumn and I wouldn't want to pass up a good opportunity!

 

[Myb]

It's difficult to say as of now as it depends on the acceptance and introduction in service of the MP14 stock. At the moment there are 9 MP59 in service (not 8 as I said previously) with 4 or 5 trains running simultaneously. They have been fitted with wind-shield wipers in prevision for the Rosny-sous-Bois extension which should open sometime in 2024 (no precise date announced yet).
By the way I can definitely understand the interest as it's quite a lively ride!

 

[TRAX]

It's difficult to say as of now as it depends on the acceptance and introduction in service of the MP14 stock. At the moment there are 9 MP59 in service (not 8 as I said previously) with 4 or 5 trains running simultaneously. They have been fitted with wind-shield wipers in prevision for the Rosny-sous-Bois extension which should open sometime in 2024 (no precise date announced yet).
By the way I can definitely understand the interest as it's quite a lively ride!

The MP 59s have been fitted with wipers to access the new outdoor depot at Rosny, but they will never run in commercial service over the extension.

 

[Purple Train]

Thanks

Are the MP73s good for next autumn, or are they planned to be withdrawn by then?

 

[Snow1964]

The first of the part single deck, part dual deck X'trapolis have entered service on RER line E

There are 56 6car 115.5m long trains on order
RER line D will later get a 7car 130.3m version

Alstom’s first X'Trapolis Cityduplex dual-voltage EMU starts operation in France

A partially double-deck six-car EMU designed for high occupancy has been launched on a line between Paris and its suburbs. Read more.

rollingstockworld.com

 

[43303_43058]

Just double checking, anyone know how many are still in service? Looks like 3 and looks like the end is nearly nigh but want a second opinion from someone actually there

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Just double checking, anyone know how many are still in service? Looks like 3 and looks like the end is nearly nigh but want a second opinion from someone actually there

A friend of mine was over there two weeks ago and he reported three old sets in total out in the peak on Line 11.

 

[TRAX]

Just double checking, anyone know how many are still in service? Looks like 3 and looks like the end is nearly nigh but want a second opinion from someone actually there

If you’re talking about MP 59s, six are still in service.

6069
6073
6075
6077
6080
6087

 

[43303_43058]

What are their normal operating hours? I’m planning to see them on the 26th

Also do they have specific diagrams?

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[Peter Mugridge]

What are their normal operating hours? I’m planning to see them on the 26th

Also do they have specific diagrams?

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The line is short enough that if you just wait at any one of the stations in the peak, one will be along within about 30 minutes at the most.

 

[GM078]

I was on this line the week before last and travelled on one of these, though my journey in the other direction was one of the newer (MP14?) sets. Wasn't a gricing trip mind and I'm not to au fait with metro stock but I did note the older feel.

 

[43303_43058]

Are we sure they only operate during peak hours?

 

[TRAX]

Are we sure they only operate during peak hours?

No, they operate at all times. It’s just that they represent only six of line 11’s twenty-nine trains, so you’ll have more chances of getting one in the peak.

 

[43303_43058]

No, they operate at all times. It’s just that they represent only six of line 11’s twenty-nine trains, so you’ll have more chances of getting one in the peak.

Fair enough, cheers.

Also: big news
THEY EXIST!

Taken aujourd’hui

 

[Snow1964]

Alstom has taken new order for another 103 MF103 trains for lines 8, 12, 13

Île-de-France Mobilités has ordered 103 new MF19 subway trains for the Paris metro lines 8, 12, and 13 from Alstom. The new trains are scheduled to be deployed between 2027 and 2029. This procurement is estimated at nearly 1.1 billion euros (excluding taxes). Île-de-France Mobilités is providing 100% of the funding for these 103 trains, which will be operated by RATPgroup.

This order follows that of 44 trains for lines 10, 3bis, and 7bis in 2019. Further orders to supplement lines 8, 12, 3, and 7 are expected soon. In total, eight metro lines (3, 3bis, 7, 7bis, 8, 10, 12, and 13) will benefit from these new trains, replacing the MF67, MF77, and MF88 models. Their arrival, expected as early as 2025 on line 10, is part of a broader strategy to accelerate the modernization of the metro network, driven by the organising authority. This strategy has triggered unprecedented investments, totalling nearly 10 billion euros by 2035.

This latest order aims to allow Alstom to secure its supply chains while adapting to the progress of necessary infrastructure works, such as platform adjustments, platform screen doors, and signalling systems, on the lines, says Île-de-France Mobilités.

Île-de-France Mobilités makes 1.1 billion euro order from Alstom

Île-de-France Mobilités has ordered 103 new MF19 subway trains for the Paris metro lines 8, 12, and 13 from Alstom. The new trains are scheduled to be deployed between 2027 and 2029. This procurement is estimated at nearly 1.1 billion euros (excluding taxes). Île-de-France Mobilités is providing...

www.railtech.com

 

[Dstock7080]

Just one MP59 6080 running on M11 Friday evening peak and during day on Saturday.