Peterborough to London / Tottenham Hale

[ECMLjag]

I'll shortly be commuting from Peterborough into London to work at Elephant and Castle, whilst also staying 1 or 2 nights a week at a friends who lives in the Tottenham area.

Is it worth buying a season ticket to zones 1 - 6 and paying the oyster fare from Elephant to Tottenham Hale, or a season ticket to Tottenham Hale?

Would the ticket print with a maltese cross and let me use it for a journey across London?

I'm a little unsure as to the best way to play it so any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks

 

[CyrusWuff]

Without doing a Routeing Guide check, I'd say that a Peterborough - London Terminals point to point ticket would likely be valid for travel to/from Tottenham Hale by train anyway.

Having said that, it's unlikely to be accepted on the tube between King's Cross St. Pancras/Highbury & Islington/Finsbury Park and Liverpool Street/Tottenham Hale, so you're likely to need to use Oyster or contactless for that.

UPDATE: Having done a Routeing Guide check, routes between London Group and Peterborough are on maps AD and KP. The former permits Peterborough - Ely - Cambridge - Liverpool Street via either Seven Sisters or Tottenham Hale and, in the latter case, also via Stratford. Map KP, not surprisingly, is Kings Cross/Moorgate - Stevenage (via Hertford North or Welwyn Garden City) then on to Peterborough either direct or via Cambridge and Ely.

 

[ECMLjag]

Doing Pboro to Tottenham Hale then, I don't suppose I would be able to break my journey at Elephant and Castle to go to work?

Thanks again fro your help

 

[Romilly]

First, if you buy a Peterborough to Zones 1-6 travelcard then, as Tottenham Hale is in Zone 3, your travelcard would cover journeys from Elephant & Castle to Tottenham Hale (and from Tottenham Hale to Elephant & Castle). NB that you have a choice between a travelcard that lets you use any train from Peterborough towards the edge of the Zones, or a cheaper one that only lets you use Great Northern trains from Peterborough towards the edge of the Zones: that cheaper one would not cover travelling from Peterborough to Tottenham Hale via Ely & Cambridge as the trains on that route are not Great Northern trains (but it would be fine for travel on any train, bus or tube within the Zones).

Second, as CyrusWuff says, if you buy a Peterborough to London Terminals season ticket valid on any train company, it will be good for journeys from Peterborough to Tottenham Hale via Cambridge, and for journeys from London Terminals (i.e. Liverpool Street) to Tottenham Hale. But then you would need to use Oyster/contactless for journeys between Liverpool Street/Kings X and Elephant & Castle. NB that the cheaper Peterborough to London Terminals season ticket that is valid only on Great Northern Trains would not cover any part of the Peterborough-Ely-Cambridge-Tottenham Hale-Liverpool Street route.

Third, if you look on the National Rail Enquiries season ticket calculator for Peterborough to Elephant & Castle season tickets, there are cheaper season tickets that cover Great Northern trains only (i.e. not East Coast trains) to Kings X and then Thameslink trains from St Pancras to Elephant & Castle. Any travel not on those services and those routes would need to be covered by Oyster/contactless.

 

[Mojo]

lf you were to have a Peterborough to London Terminals season ticket, it would be valid on LU services to Moorgate, which is a short walk from Liverpool St where you could travel to Tottenham Hale by train on the same season ticket. You could also use your season ticket to Finsbury Park on either Great Northern trains or LU, then get off the train, and travel using an Oyster card to Tottenham Hale. This would be just £1 off peak with a Gold Card or appropriate Railcard loaded onto your Oyster card.

 

[MikeWh]

I'll shortly be commuting from Peterborough into London to work at Elephant and Castle, whilst also staying 1 or 2 nights a week at a friends who lives in the Tottenham area.

So this could be 3x Peterborough to Elephant, 3x Elephant to Peterborough, 2x Elephant to Tottenham Hale and 2x Tottenham Hale to Elephant? If 2 nights in TH were the norm then a season ticket might be overkill.

Is it worth buying a season ticket to zones 1 - 6 and paying the oyster fare from Elephant to TH, or a season ticket to Tottenham Hale?

Zones 1-6 covers everything in those zones, so no need to pay extra on Oyster.

Would the ticket print with a maltese cross and let me use it for a journey across London?

A travelcard doesn't print a maltese cross, but is valid on everything within the zones so no need.

Options:

1) Peterborough to Z1-6 (Any permitted): £199.30/week (can use fast VTEC trains)
2) Peterborough to Z1-6 (Gt Northern only): £186.30/week

3) Peterborough to Kings Cross (Gt Northern only): £155.00/week
Kings Cross to Elephant: £2.40 Oyster single
Tottenham Hale to Elephant: £3.30 Peak Oyster single
Two nights in London would be £155 + 6x £2.40 + 4x £3.30 = £182.60

4) Zones 1-3 Travelcard: £38.00/week (covers out to TH)
Peterborough to BZ3: £37.50 return, £25.50 single. If two consecutive nights stayed in London this would be £38.00+£37.50+£37.50+£25.50+£25.50 = £164.00. Travel is only on Gt Northern services on BZ tickets though.

If you want the option of using fast VTEC services between Peterborough and Kings Cross then the travelcard is realistically your best option. If you only spend 1 night in London then option 4 becomes £201.50 but option 3 reduces to £180.80. If your 2 nights in London are not consecutive then option 4 becomes £178.00.

Hope that helps a bit.