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"Planned train being replaced with a slower train (MS)"

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6Gman

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The 1202 Euston-Chester was cancelled today between Crewe and Chester "due to planned train being replaced with a slower train (MS)".

Not sure if that actually means anything, particularly given that passengers were directed to the 1421 TfW booked service which wasn't replacing anything!

So what is this cancellation code meant to represent?
 
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A quick glance at RTT shows it was following the late running 1H18 from Milton Keynes to Colwich Jn, but keeps to time otherwise. My guess would have been it was running with tilt disabled, but I'm gonna have to go with erroneous reason entry.
 

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So what is this cancellation code meant to represent?
From the Open Data:
MSPlanned underpowered or shortformed service and or vehicle, incl. exam set swaps

The unit in question formed 5Z86 onto Central Rivers depot so I would suggest that it was a part cancellation to allow the unit to go for exam or repair due to a fault which meant it wasn't running at full speed.
 

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Avanti now tell me it terminated at Crewe due to staff shortages.

Which seems odd.

I have pointed out to them that the unit went to Central Rivers so a driver must have been available (I assume such moves can be DOO).
 

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Avanti now tell me it terminated at Crewe due to staff shortages.

Which seems odd.

I have pointed out to them that the unit went to Central Rivers so a driver must have been available (I assume such moves can be DOO).
The manual announcement at Crewe said 'staff shortage', too. There was a period when some Chesters had TfW guards from Crewe.
Congestion was created by the 10.30 Euston Glasgow limping down the fast to Milton Keynes, where it expired in platform 5. There was a special stop in the 11.30 and there was some station overtime by this due to the large number of passengers transferring. This had a knock on effect on later trains (I was on the Liverpool, 12.15 from Milton Keynes) and the loss of time by the Chester was between Milton Keynes and Rugby, following the LNw Euston - Crewe. After that, it seems to have kept time.
The 11.30 Glasgow was so full that the last people attempting to join couldn't physically get in it and I expected that this would be a further cause of delay due to overloading/tilt disabled but that doesn't seem to have happened. The Liverpool I was on had a checked run to Colwich, though.
One might have expected the 'replaced by a slower train' to mean passengers were directed to the perhaps slower TfW train, but the announcement gave the forward service as the next hourly Avanti Chester.
 

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The “replaced by a slower train…” text on RTT is their (RTT’s) translation into layspeak of the delay code; the true text of which @skyhigh posted in post 3.

It’s also based off what is put into delay attribution systems; which may not be correct, but as the delay investigation and attribution process goes on will ultimately get changed to the real code days or perhaps even weeks later. I don’t know if RTT gets fed those later updates.

So a NR delay attributor doing initial delays has seen a train arrive at Crewe, then go ECS to a depot. They potentially/likely have no further info; and so attribute it as a unit swap “MS”, and then in the message to their Avanti colleagues who pick up the next bit of the process will put something like “no advice or logs, TOC please advise”. Avanti will come back in a few days when they get to doing the delays for that day and change it, if necessary, to one of the traincrew codes (TG/TH) if it was a shortage of traincrew.

Meanwhile the customer info side of Avanti does know what is really going on, so puts out the messaging to frontline teams and passengers that the train is cancelled due to crew issues.
 
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