Pre Beeching Atlas

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  1. philabos

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    Seeking advice on the best one to buy.
    Already have the pre Grouping but it is bit hard to read.
    Choices I have seen are the British Rail Atlas Last Days of the Big Four 1947 or the British Railways 1955. Any recommendations?
     
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  3. John Webb

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    I have both - the "Last Days of the Big Four" is not as clear to read as the 1955 version due to the version of the underlying map used, but includes railways closed pre-Beeching, of course. They all would be better in an A4 format, but the series have the advantage that they use the same pagination for easy cross-reference between editions. I tend to use the Pre-Grouping and the 1955 editions more.

    You might want to look out for C J Wignall's "Compete British Railways Maps and Gazetteer From 1830-1981", published by Oxford Publishing Co in 1983. This is A4 sized, but the pagination is awkward; there are also some known errors in it, I have been told.
     
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    I understand that there are more than 'some' known errors. It has the feel of having been drawn entirely from memory! It's a shame as it had the potential to be really helpful.
     
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    Yes - Wignall atlas was a good idea, but suffers from what appears to have been very inadequate proof-reading.

    If you can afford separate atlases, the GWR Atlas by R.A. Cooke is excellent for that railway.

    Ian Allan recently published a Southern Railway atlas which seems to be quite good. Sadly, I know of nothing similar for LMSR or LNER.
     
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    I don't know if it is still available but I have used nothing but Jowett's Railway Atlas for years, leaving aside the other atlases that I have had in the past. Have just checked Amazon and they have 7 second hand copies from £29.94. A fantastic volume as all the maps are hand drawn and the lists of stations, junction, tunnels etc all listed by hand.
     
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    Ooh, I didn't know about the Southern one. Does anyone know of an image of a sample page? I can't tell from Amazon whether it's one I would want to get or not!
     
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    If you cannot find an image, please send me an email and I will photograph a page (off forum).
    (bevanprice666@gmail.com).
     
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    Email sent, thanks.
     
  10. philabos

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    Thanks very much for the recommendation. Looks like exactly what I am seeking but could not find myself. At 352 pages, must be quite detailed. I see the same firm also has a "Rail Centres" book which I assume covers terminal areas in detail.
     
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    The 1955 one is the first one I bought when Ian Allan first started selling them. It's very good but it was only later that I found out how many lines had closed between the end of the war and 1955, so it's never quite there in terms of being the network at its biggest

    Colonel Cobb's atlas is the ultimate but the current edition is a lot more expensive than when I bought mine
     
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    I forgot to mention the Midland Railway System Maps, reprinted a few years ago, which show detailed maps of the former Midland Railway which became part of LMSR in 1923. Not sure if they are still in print. Also included joint lines (LTSR, M&GNR, S&DJR), and some lines over which MR had running powers.

    http://www.midlandrailway.org.uk/maps/distance-diagrams.html

    Somebody also started a project on LNWR lines, but only the Northamptonshire volume was ever published (and strangely described as "Part 5")
     
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    Also interesting. Must have sold out very quickly. Published at 19.99 now one used on Amazon almost 50 UKP.
     
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    Yep it's a good atlas, might get lucky to buy one through Ian Allen or Waterstones, same authors also done an Ireland railways then & now version
     
  16. philabos

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    Yes, the Ireland one is readily available, it's the UK atlas that is scarce.
     
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    For some reason, I have two hardback versions of these. One has a red, yellow and white cover (marked 2nd edition) published in 2015 and the other one has a pale blue, dark blue and white cover, published in 2012. Both showing the imprint of Ian Allen Publishing
     

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