Primary users of platform 0 at King's Cross

[jon0844]

I'm not using King's Cross as much as before, but the other day I went to get the 1857 KGC to WGC, which generally departs (in all of my previous experience) from platform 11, or possibly 9 or 10. It also seems to be booked to sometimes go from platform 7.

However, I've noticed more and more FCC trains are now booked to use platform 0. Like it was that day, as I went to 11 and then saw it come up as 0 - about 5 minutes before departure. That's quite a walk and now it's not very quick to get there at this time, as people board EC trains and there's the narrow walkway between the two buildings.

With the other platforms being closed for work, I was wondering if anyone knew how many trains are now due to use platform 0 - and how it may or may not change when the station is completed. Traditionally, most trains in the daytime will from 9-11 and that's where I'll often go to first 'if in doubt' using that exit of the Underground to enter King's Cross. If time is tight, seeing more trains for 0 will probably mean many people missing trains - but you can't exactly go to 0 and expect your next service from there!!

 

[GNERman]

One reason is no steam/diesel are allowed on Platform 0 due to above offices...

 

[142094]

One reason is no steam/electric are allowed on Platform 0 due to above offices...

Just wondering what FCC services that run out of Kings Cross are not electric?

 

[MCR247]

They all are. FCC whole fleet is electric

 

[142094]

Thought so.

 

[djw1981]

suspect they meant no diesel or steam due to exhaust. i.e. electric only

 

[142094]

That's what I was thinking, but I'm sure I read that platform 0 had been used for a GC service recently?

 

[jon0844]

Well, EC has had MK4s there.. but not seen a diesel yet! But, as I said, I am not there that much at the moment.

 

[silentone]

That's what I was thinking, but I'm sure I read that platform 0 had been used for a GC service recently?

There seems to be some old wives tales that HST's are being put in there although none of the people who talk about it have actually seen this. Surely the driver of any HST would see they're being routed into '0' and contact the signaller!?

 

[142094]

It was a 180 that was supposedly there, but as you say I've heard this as second hand knowledge.

 

[GNERman]

Just wondering what FCC services that run out of Kings Cross are not electric?

They all are. FCC whole fleet is electric

Yes I know that thankyou very much but what i'm implying is that Platform 7 may be in use by an HST so the FCC has to go onto 0 because it can...

Also, since when was this electric - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FCC_03179_at_NVR.jpg

Huh? I think not...

 

[MCR247]

Fine their whole passenger fleet if you want to nitpick

 

[GNERman]

ok, all I know is that apparently Platform 0 must be used by Electric Stock, ie 91's and EMU's... I wouldn't want to be in one of the offices above with Tornado underneath me...

 

[djw1981]

But you said............

One reason is no steam/electric are allowed on Platform 0 due to above offices...

Thus you state no electrics into platform 0. Donkey

 

[Aictos]

End of the day, Platform 0 is banned to Diesel and Steam traction because of the low roof due to the offices above which is why only Electric traction is permitted.

Therefore I cannot see why the signaller would put either banned class into the platform as quite rightly they would be answering some serious questions as would the driver if he took such a route.

I so agree with the OP's point about the distance between Platform 11 and Platform 0 but all I can suggest is you keep a eye on the screens in the main concourse area simply because it reduces the distance you need to get to your train.

 

[t0ffeeman]

Stand on platform 8 with the rest of us!

 

[philjo]

The last few occasions I have been at KX in the evening peak hours, EC were using Platform 0 with a 225 set for Edinburgh.

Things might move around a bit soon as I understand that platforms are due to 6-7 close in mid-August for the refurbishment works & FCC have a number of evening peak services from these platforms at present.

 

[yorkie]

.. I wouldn't want to be in one of the offices above with Tornado underneath me...

Why not?!

End of the day, Platform 0 is banned to Diesel and Steam traction because of the low roof due to the offices above which is why only Electric traction is permitted.

Indeed, the low roof wouldn't allow the fumes to disperse very well, making the environment pleasant for anyone boarding at that platform

 

[mrcheek]

the low roof wouldn't allow the fumes to disperse very well, making the environment pleasant for anyone boarding at that platform

Is this a typo thread now?

 

[yorkie]

Is this a typo thread now?

I've not noticed any typos in this thread.

 

[jon0844]

Stand on platform 8 with the rest of us!

Looking at the screens turned off during peak periods?!!

I'll usually find out on my mobile, so it's rarely a problem - except for some reason my phone can take a long time to get a signal when I come out of the tube station, and it means I can't check straight away.

Of course, some new screens (which are coming I believe) in the underground station to show departures above would help considerably. There's loads of room at the new northern ticket hall and it's sheltered and then easy to exit for 0-8 or 9-11 as required.

 

[mrcheek]

I've not noticed any typos in this thread.

read it more carefully then

 

[flymo]

I've not noticed any typos in this thread.

I think he is referring to the (un) 'pleasant' remark in your reply. It makes no difference really as I'm sure most people knew what you meant.

 

[mrcheek]

I think he is referring to the (un) 'pleasant' remark in your reply. It makes no difference really as I'm sure most people knew what you meant.

Plus the suggestion elsewhere that electric trains couldnt use Platform 0.
two pretty major errors in a single thread. Pay attention guys!

still, not as bad as me the other week talking about how HSTs had been in use for bears...

 

[yorkie]

Ah, I see. I put pleasant instead of unpleasant. Any normal person would have pointed that out sensibly, rather than asking if it is a "typo thread"!

 

[mrcheek]

Ah, I see. I put pleasant instead of unpleasant. Any normal person would have pointed that out sensibly, rather than asking if it is a "typo thread"!

any normal person would read my comment, check their wording and laugh at my joke and their mistake.

 

[yorkie]

I didn't think writing the wrong word by mistake counted as a 'typo' anyway.

And if it's a joke, why no use of a ' ' emoticon? You can't read tone from text, so that's what emoticons are for.

 

[142094]

Yes I know that thankyou very much but what i'm implying is that Platform 7 may be in use by an HST so the FCC has to go onto 0 because it can...

Also, since when was this electric - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FCC_03179_at_NVR.jpg

Huh? I think not...

If you knew that, why did you say that electric trains were banned then? Plus you didn't imply that platform 7 may be in use either.

 

[yorkie]

If you knew that, why did you say that electric trains were banned then? Plus you didn't imply that platform 7 may be in use either.

He just can't admit he typed the wrong thing by mistake, which I did. Easily done!

 

[Fred26]

Is platform 0 12-car platform?

As an aside, does anyone know if the work at Kings Cross involves 'filling in the large space behind the buffers of platforms 1-6' like as has happened with 7 & 8? I assume it will happen at some stage, because it would create some more precious space. I also assume that platforms 7 & 8 were filled in behind the buffers early on because it gave more space on that corner. Am I correct?