• Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

PSBs not near a station

Status
Not open for further replies.
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

LowLevel

Established Member
Joined
26 Oct 2013
Messages
7,617
Lincoln SCC is a good mile or so from Lincoln station, it was next to the old West Holmes signalbox which was demolished 15 years ago.
 

Rescars

Member
Joined
25 May 2021
Messages
1,177
Location
Surrey
When did it go? But no that would definitely count
Presumably when Slough IECC was commissioned. Others may have knowledge of dates.

Has anyone mentioned Gloucester yet? IIRC it is inconveniently distant from the station, but handy for overseeing a level crossing.
 

matchmaker

Established Member
Joined
8 Mar 2009
Messages
1,514
Location
Central Scotland
Now gone, but Millerhill (Edinburgh). I don't think it even had passenger services past it. Millerhill Station closed in 1955, long before the PSB or its successor existed.
 

godfreycomplex

Established Member
Joined
23 Jun 2016
Messages
1,304
Presumably when Slough IECC was commissioned. Others may have knowledge of dates.
1993

A good number signal boxes these days are in convenient (in many senses) locations. There are some mechanical boxes twenty miles from the nearest station! But in terms of modern boxes now Trent has gone Basingstoke ROC must take the cake.
 

Sad Sprinter

Established Member
Joined
5 Jun 2017
Messages
1,830
Location
Way on down South London town
1993

A good number signal boxes these days are in convenient (in many senses) locations. There are some mechanical boxes twenty miles from the nearest station! But in terms of modern boxes now Trent has gone Basingstoke ROC must take the cake.

Why was Trent in the middle of nowhere?

Wasn't the Gospel Oak to Barking Line controlled from a PSB named after a junction rather than a station?
 

bishdunster

Member
Joined
9 Oct 2012
Messages
281
Location
Dunster
1993

A good number signal boxes these days are in convenient (in many senses) locations. There are some mechanical boxes twenty miles from the nearest station! But in terms of modern boxes now Trent has gone Basingstoke ROC must take the cake.
Must need one hell of a pull to move twenty miles of point rodding! :lol:
 

LowLevel

Established Member
Joined
26 Oct 2013
Messages
7,617
Why was Trent in the middle of nowhere?

Wasn't the Gospel Oak to Barking Line controlled from a PSB named after a junction rather than a station?
It isn't, really. It's on the road network and it's centrally located for it's operating area. It isn't too close to a railway station but it's close to Toton yards and so on.

The era of it's commissioning however means that it had a large number of additional shunt frames scattered through it's control area to work yards, sidings or level crossings.

I believe it had one big interlocking too rather than local ones.
 

godfreycomplex

Established Member
Joined
23 Jun 2016
Messages
1,304
It isn't, really. It's on the road network and it's centrally located for it's operating area.
Not much consolation for those who work there unfortunately.

Imagine the uproar if they decided to uproot an entire train crew depot and deposit it in a field in the middle of nowhere, and the reasons behind it. The same principle applies to signallers.
 

LowLevel

Established Member
Joined
26 Oct 2013
Messages
7,617
Not much consolation for those who work there unfortunately.

Imagine the uproar if they decided to uproot an entire train crew depot and deposit it in a field in the middle of nowhere, and the reasons behind it. The same principle applies to signallers.
It was in use for nearly 50 years and no one seemed particularly unhappy. It isn't in a field in the middle of nowhere, that would have been Bellwater Junction. It shut in 2013. It was between Derby and Nottingham (on the edge of Long Eaton) and connected perfectly well by road. Not being adjacent to an actual station didn't seem to be an issue any more than Toton Yard not having a station was one.
 

godfreycomplex

Established Member
Joined
23 Jun 2016
Messages
1,304
Why was Trent in the middle of nowhere?

Wasn't the Gospel Oak to Barking Line controlled from a PSB named after a junction rather than a station?
South Tottenham Junction (which controls Crouch Hill to Wanstead Park) is indeed at the junction. Which, by happy coincidence, is immediately next to the station
 

Taunton

Established Member
Joined
1 Aug 2013
Messages
10,116
The London Underground control centre at Cobourg Street, a back street west of Euston, which lasted I think 50 years from the late 1960s, and possibly still serving a purpose, was in a completely anonymous and near-windowless building, only given away by the No Parking signs outside being in Johnston font! Seemingly nowhere near any other Underground facility, it is actually on the site of a working shaft for the Victoria Line construction.
 
Last edited:

D6130

Established Member
Joined
12 Jan 2021
Messages
5,796
Location
West Yorkshire/Tuscany
But in terms of modern boxes now Trent has gone Basingstoke ROC must take the cake.
Would the West Midlands Signalling Centre not be further away from New Street....or is it closer to Adderley Park as the crow flies than Basingstoke ROC is to its station?
Greenhill Junction and Cadder were nowhere near any station.
IIRC, Cadder was only about half a mile from Lenzie station.
 

MadMac

Member
Joined
13 Jun 2008
Messages
971
Location
Moorpark, CA
IIRC, Cadder was only about half a mile from Lenzie station.
Quick Google Earth gives it as just over 3/4 mile. I’ll happily revise my “nowhere near” to “somewhat distant from” :lol:

I believe it had one big interlocking too rather than local ones.
Indeed, as did Saltley. The functions were transmitted/received over the Vital Reed Frequency Division Multiplex system.
 

TSG

Member
Joined
10 Aug 2020
Messages
171
Location
Somewhere in the South of England
Would the West Midlands Signalling Centre not be further away from New Street....or is it closer to Adderley Park as the crow flies than Basingstoke ROC is to its station?
I don't know the WMSC but it appears to be 0.3 miles from Duddeston station. BROC is 0.8 miles from Basingstoke station but somehow it feels like further....
 

Omnishambles

Member
Joined
13 Jul 2019
Messages
106
I don't know the WMSC but it appears to be 0.3 miles from Duddeston station. BROC is 0.8 miles from Basingstoke station but somehow it feels like further....
Duddeston for WMSC. whilst both were open it was turn left at the bottom of the hill for WMSC and right for Saltley PSB, 5min walk
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top