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Bon Accord

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Gents,
The current 'Queen of Scots' luxury train did of course start out life as the Royal Scotsman and does indeed contain a few historic vehicles of (I believe) CR, GNR and LNWR vintage.
The question I have is that some of these coaches are wooden bodied/framed, so how are they allowed to run on the national network which, if memory serves, banned wooden bodied passenger carrying vehicles some years ago?

As an aside, wasn't someone rebuilding a former Pullman carriage to supposed modern crash worthiness standards around a decade or so ago, did this take place?
 
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dubscottie

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I think the ban on Timber coaches was more to do wit the fire hazard. The (Steel) underframes can still take 220t compression at the couplers (SR/LNER and MK 1) and 180t (LMS/GWR).

Limited use and speed would maybe a factor as well.

As for the Pullman.. Yes one was rebuilt, and as always I will have to dig through my magazines to find out the details.. Rebuilt in Edinburgh if I remember right?
 
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Crapper

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The wooden bodied vehicles in the train are passed to run at 75mph, and are the oldest vehicles in use on the network. They are permitted to run due to 'grandfather rights' (they were registered pre privatisation) and the fact that it is a private train and not for everyday passenger use. The train was owned by Rick Edmonson, former owner of 'Brittany', and was for his private family use and hired out for corporate hospitality events. It's the only train I've been on with a library! The train was sold a few year ago and is now owned by West Coast Railways.
 
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