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Cheers. Another easy one.

between 1958 and 1960 Helmsdale shed was home to two unusual locomotives for the area. Which locomotives were they?
 

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Cheers. Another easy one.

between 1958 and 1960 Helmsdale shed was home to two unusual locomotives for the area. Which locomotives were they?
Bit of a guess (as it happens, I've just been up in those parts) -- think I've read in times past, of this "business": GWR-designed, ex- BR Western Region, 0-6-0 pannier tanks, put to use on the Dornoch branch in its last years.
 

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Bit of a guess (as it happens, I've just been up in those parts) -- think I've read in times past, of this "business": GWR-designed, ex- BR Western Region, 0-6-0 pannier tanks, put to use on the Dornoch branch in its last years.
Correct. 1646 and 1649 moved north to operate the Dornoch Branch. After the branch closed in 1960 they were transferred to Inverness and spent the rest of their working lives on pilot and trip workings.

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Tapadh leat, as they maybe say thereabouts -- or maybe don't.

Staying with that part of the world: the mid-to-late 1940s were a bad time for definitely-lesser rail lines in the far north of Scotland (we'll say, north of a line drawn from Aberdeen to Fort William). Please identify two of such casualties in that time-span -- if wished, more than two; and other relevant detail welcomed -- but just identifying two, will qualify.
 

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Wick-Lybster and Inverness-Fort Augustus? The latter was down to one train a week when the Commandos weren’t playing.
 

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Ah'm gaun tae be a richt pedant, ye ken: Wick -- Lybster, correct; abandoned 1944. Fort Augustus is involved; but there never was a rail line between there and Inverness.
 

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Ah'm gaun tae be a richt pedant, ye ken: Wick -- Lybster, correct; abandoned 1944. Fort Augustus is involved; but there never was a rail line between there and Inverness.

Ah, but how do we know that that was not fake news because the Commandos destroyed all trace.

In truth, I got confused. Fort Augustus-Spean Bridge.
 

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When the London & North Eastern Railway was formed in 1923, one of its constituent and absorbed companies took a great deal longer to be taken over than the rest. Longer, in truth, than other company taken over by the Big Four. Which company?
 

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When the London & North Eastern Railway was formed in 1923, one of its constituent and absorbed companies took a great deal longer to be taken over than the rest. Longer, in truth, than other company taken over by the Big Four. Which company?
Very wild guess, and have really no idea why -- Mid-Suffolk Light Railway???
 

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Very wild guess, and have really no idea why -- Mid-Suffolk Light Railway???

A very wild but very accurate guess. It was not taken into the L&NER until 1 July 1924 as it was in receivership and there were problems over the debt.

To you to wander across the fields to set a new question.
 

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Aar, didn' think for a moment O'id git theer, bor -- an' at one time they 'uns were thinkin' 'er'd extend and be linked-up with the Southwold -- 'ow mazed can yer git...?

Further with closure-dates: the Mid-Suffolk's line was abandoned in 1952, in the new BR's quite widespread early-1950s "holocaust" of envisagedly hopeless rural branch lines. There was another branch, much-loved by enthusiasts and to some extent by holiday-making "real people", which was abandoned in summer '52; a little later than the MS -- this one, part of a quite complex "mini-system": the first bit thereof, to die. Please identify.
 

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The Ventnor West branch?
Correct: Merstone -- Ventnor West, abandoned w.e.f 15 / 9 / 1952 -- first line of the Isle of Wight's network, to close. (One wishes that they had had the decency to wait until the end of September !)

To you to set the next question.
 

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Cheers.

It was indeed. 26050 became 76050.
I believe it later swapped identities with 76038 on being fitted with train air brakes.

Staying on the same them

Which was the last main line locomotive to carry its pre TOPS number?
Please note that I am not referring to those that currently carry such numbers as part of a heritage livery.
 

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Assuming you mean actual in service locomotives that were renumbered and not anything that was later withdrawn - like the 35s and 52s - without having been renumbered, or being used in departmental service without having been renumbered, then wasn't it 45 071 ( the former D125 )?
 

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Assuming you mean actual in service locomotives that were renumbered and not anything that was later withdrawn - like the 35s and 52s - without having been renumbered, or being used in departmental service without having been renumbered, then wasn't it 45 071 ( the former D125 )?
Correct.

D125 was badly damaged in an accident at Bridgwater on 22nd October 1974 and was not renumbered as 45071 until it was released from Derby works after repairs in December 1975. Although members of classes 35 and 52 carried pre TOPS numbers after this date they were never renumbered.

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Thank you; as we seem to be on a TOPS numbering theme on the forum this week, here's another one which shouldn't be too difficult:

What were the previous identities - in order - of 47 901?
 

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