Redunant wagons outside Leeds

[_toommm_]

Next to Leeds West Junction, there's 10-20 red wagons, possibly coal hoppers, that have been extant for at least a year. I've never seen a train arrive or depart from that yard.

Does anyone know what the yard is called, and if the wagons are officially withdrawn please?

 

[D6130]

Next to Leeds West Junction, there's 10-20 red wagons, possibly coal hoppers, that have been extant for at least a year. I've never seen a train arrive or depart from that yard.

Does anyone know what the yard is called, and if the wagons are officially withdrawn please?

That's Whitehall Yard..I believe that they're redundant EWS/DBC coal hoppers.

 

[sprinterguy]

Yeah, redundant and I suspect withdrawn HTA coal hoppers, without work now that the power station coal flows are a thing of the past, and EWS/DBC lost a lot of that declining traffic to Freightliner and GBRf over the past decade or two anyway.

Seems strange to me to see them in such dilapidated condition there now, when I remember them bright and shiny and new, initially in, I think, rakes of about 18 wagons before they were upped to 20.

 

[Geeves]

They were previously in store in the yard next to Neville Hill but that's closed now so it seems DB has just found locations here there and everywhere. There's around 20 of them in the sidings on the way into Manchester Victoria and various other places.

 

[edwin_m]

Some coal hoppers have been converted to aggregate wagons, requiring "cut and shut" of the body to optimise it for a higher density cargo. So they may be in store in case the need arises for more of those.

 

[Spartacus]

Yeah, redundant and I suspect withdrawn HTA coal hoppers, without work now that the power station coal flows are a thing of the past, and EWS/DBC lost a lot of that declining traffic to Freightliner and GBRf over the past decade or two anyway.

Seems strange to me to see them in such dilapidated condition there now, when I remember them bright and shiny and new, initially in, I think, rakes of about 18 wagons before they were upped to 20.

18, then 20, 21, 23 and occasionally 42

They were always notoriously hard on the track, being trackside as a train of loaded ones passed where there was a bit of a fault they were quite visibly worse than GBRf or Freightliner ones carrying similar loads.

 

[edwin_m]

18, then 20, 21, 23 and occasionally 42

They were always notoriously hard on the track, being trackside as a train of loaded ones passed where there was a bit of a fault they were quite visibly worse than GBRf or Freightliner ones carrying similar loads.

EWS placed large orders of several wagon types immediately after privatisation, which ran on some fairly crude bogie designs derived from ones that ran on the much heavier track in America. Wagons for other operators used more typical European designs or indeed bogies specifically designed for low track forces.

 

[_toommm_]

Thank you all, very interesting.