Restriction J8: Norwich to Kings Cross

[transportphoto]

Hi All,

NRW - Norwich
ELY - ELY
KGX - London Kings Cross
0035 - London Zones 1-6
EMT - East Midlands Trains
TLGN - Thameslink Great Northern​

The situation:

• I hold an Off Peak Day Travelcard, NRW to 0035
• The relevant restriction for this ticket is J8.
• I am trying to travel on the following services:

• 07:57 NRW ELY 08:45
• 08:58 ELY KGX 10:13

• Journey planners do not show this as valid…
• As a result of previous, TLGN and EMT Social Media teams are saying this wouldn't be valid, referring me to National Rail Enquiries.

Having had a dig into BR Fares, the 'Unpublished Restrictions' show that it is not valid to depart NRW between 04:00 and 08:05, which probably explains why this is not showing as valid on Journey Planners.

To me, this is a fairly open and shut case that this ticket is valid on this itinerary, however for reassurance, could someone cast their eye over proceedings and advise accordingly, please?

Cheers,

TP

 

[ainsworth74]

Looks valid to me. Bring a printout of the relevant restriction code (or have it available on a mobile device).

 

[transportphoto]

Thanks Ainsworth74 for your help. Just wanted to check I wasn't missing anything.

 

[yorkie]

Those secret restrictions are not enforceable, and the social media teams are wrong (they should really say something like "I am not sure, I will get back to you" and ask an expert, or give you contact details for someone who will know, rather than make things up).

 

[transportphoto]

I can tell they're relying on Journey Planner, however if I can scrape a 'Yes, it's valid' from them, it's slightly better standing for any potential arguments when travelling

TP

22:44… TLGN have now tweeted to confirm its valid.

 

[TheEdge]

I've been looking at some fares for something else and I guess those hidden restriction are to block out that 0757 EMT service for Off Peak Tickets to prevent people from catching peak XC services at Ely which have later off peak times. Or something.

But I concur, yea, valid.