Scotrail using Gaelic translations in places which Lowland Scots was spoken

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  1. route:oxford

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    Gaelic is not a dead language. There are some people who are still active speakers in Scotland. However, there are likely to be very few in the Borders!
     
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    ScotRail already have to employ people to translate so they may as well use them.
     
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    Reminds me of the Welsh hospital that asked for a Welsh translation of a road sign, they thought the reply was what they needed. Unfortunately, the e-mail response to Swansea council said "Nid wyf yn y swyddfa ar hyn o bryd. Anfonwch unrhyw waith i’w gyfieithu" (I am not in the office at the moment. Send any work to be translated). http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7702913.stm
     
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    That's a poor reason. By that logic, if FirstGroup employed people to translate into Cornish, would we expect to see signs at Dewsbury stating "Gluthbre"? ;)
     
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    I wonder what 'London Paddington' would be :D
     
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    it would seem to me that it would be more appropriate to provide Lowland Scots translations rather than Gaelic, so I guess it's another political vanity exercise.
     
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    All the signs in Caithness are Gaelic now. I wanted Norse as that's what we spoke but apparently that's not allowed ;).
     
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    At a guess, "Loundre Paddington".
     
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    Why isn't it allowed? Like Lowland Scots in its part of the country it has far more claim to be seen as the historic language of the area (if that means anything!) than Gaelic does. The linguistic situation in Scotland is not parallel to Wales at all.
     
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    My anecdotal understanding of the situation was that someone from some Gaelic society put together a case for this back in the days when Nicol Stephen was the Transport Minister.

    It was then adopted as a change to the franchise agreement.

    If that's the case (bearing in mind my understanding is anecdotal), there is precedent for someone to put forward a case for Norse / Lowland Scots / English / Maltese / or whatever. However, that case would have to be put to the transport minister rather than Scotrail though.

    Customer: "Scotrail, I want this station name to be in Pidgin English."
    Scotrail: "Sorry, but that's not allowed."

    Customer: "Minister, I want the Scotrail franchise to be able to put station names up in the following languages subject to consultation and agreement with the local community".
    Minister: "???"
     
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    How about the entire country's signs are written in Yorkshire :D
     
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    The local council weren't interested in anything bar Gaelic going on new signs. It doesn't particularly bother me outside of it being a waste of money, some others were slightly more annoyed!

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/scotla...gunmen-shoot-road-sign-in-caithness-1-3075913

    Councillor Alex MacLeod was later convicted for election expenses fraud, which of course has nothing to do with Gaelic but is still interesting ;).
     
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