Should speed through mainline stations be slower?

[Neptune]

No-one suggested platform-edge barriers/doors yet? (After all - when did you last look down a lift-shaft? And trains are just impressively-complicated sideways lifts.)

That would prevent accidental and deliberate interactions between passengers and non-stop trains. All we have to do now is solve the engineering issues of unpredictable train door spacing and positioning.

That would be impossible due to different trains having different door positions.

 

[JamesT]

That would be impossible due to different trains having different door positions.

You could have doors in the barriers in the positions for each type of train. Then some method of the train communicating what class/length etc. it is to the platform to open only the appropriate doors.
Not impossible, but more complicated than is presumably considered worth it. Hence current PED installs have been on infrastructure with consistent rolling stock.

 

[zwk500]

You could have doors in the barriers in the positions for each type of train. Then some method of the train communicating what class/length etc. it is to the platform to open only the appropriate doors.
Not impossible, but more complicated than is presumably considered worth it. Hence current PED installs have been on infrastructure with consistent rolling stock.

If you were genuinely wanting platform edge protection in this situation, the far simpler solution would be to install the gates/doors away from the platform edges.
However this would require quite wide platforms at busy stations, as you'd need the width between the gates for people to wait.

 

[stuu]

If you were genuinely wanting platform edge protection in this situation, the far simpler solution would be to install the gates/doors away from the platform edges.
However this would require quite wide platforms at busy stations, as you'd need the width between the gates for people to wait.

I would love to see the cost/benefit analysis for doing anything at all. How many incidents of people being injured or killed by unintentionally coming into contact with passing trains are there each year?

 

[zwk500]

I would love to see the cost/benefit analysis for doing anything at all. How many incidents of people being injured or killed by unintentionally coming into contact with passing trains are there each year?

Well exactly.

 

[Eccles1983]

Short answer - no.

People need to learn to stand away from the yellow line/pti.

 

[Bald Rick]

You could have doors in the barriers in the positions for each type of train.

You couldn’t, as some would overlap.

 

[JamesT]

You couldn’t, as some would overlap.

Where positions overlap, couldn’t you have a wider door that covered the complete width of the overlap? As long as you’re opening onto the side of the train whether wall or door that should be safe, shouldn’t it?

 

[alistairlees]

Where positions overlap, couldn’t you have a wider door that covered the complete width of the overlap? As long as you’re opening onto the side of the train whether wall or door that should be safe, shouldn’t it?

The entire thing would need to consist entirely of different doors. There wouldn't be any part that wasn't.

 

[swt_passenger]

The entire thing would need to consist entirely of different doors. There wouldn't be any part that wasn't.

And it would also have to be 100% fail safe whenever a short train arrived at a long platform. I’ve mentioned before this was considered unacceptable by ORR on the LU Jubilee line during extension work, and that only involved one type of train with two lengths…