Over a year ago when Anne came back in December 2022, then Amy came back after Jan-Feb 2023, then Anne came back again and the announcements broke.
I don’t understand why it has taken Greater Anglia so long to sort this out. It’s not like Liverpool Street is a tiny station in the middle of nowhere.
It would be interesting to see how many people have slipped on icy platforms or exploded through not seeing, saying and sorting during this period...
My feeling (extrapolated somewhat: correct me if I'm wrong) is that Greater Anglia aren't all that keen/fussed about announcements - certainly the GA station I most regularly use doesn't have announcements, even though it's a staffed station with direct London services. Admittedly that's anecdotal and based on a survey of one, but, given all the other out-in-the-sticks places where announcements have been fitted, I do think that not fitting them to such a station (which nevertheless has all the accoutrements of a modern station: ticket machine, digital display boards, etc.) could be evidence of a more relaxed attitude to announcements, which the current silence at Liverpool Street would seem to confirm.
Which station is this, Chelmsford? Manningtree?
Alot of stations the Network Rail manage CIS are controlled by TOC like Bristol Temple Meads station managed by NR but CIS GWR, etc. Liverpool Street I think use to be ownewd by NR but gave control of CIS to GA.
I believe Greater Anglia now have full control and responsibilities over the CIS and P.A system at Liverpool Street.
My sarcasm detector just exploded!
Sarcastic, but in hindsight, it would be a great opportunity to see whether announcements actually make a noticeable difference to accident stats. A year out of service in one of the busiest stations in the country should have produced some proper results.
I agree with this and would be interested to see stats after they ceased the generic announcements about bad weather and see-it-say-it-sorted for a period of, say, six months compared to a previous comparable period.
I've always quite liked the approach of DB on their long distance services to this. If the train is on time the conductor will simply announce words to the effect of "All connections will be made" without giving further detail, but if the train is late and connections have been missed then they'll announce more detail "The next train to Frankfurt departs at 1552 from platform 3, service to Munich at 1605 from platform 7" etc etc.
Indeed so, although what is actually said in English is, 'All connections will be reached'. Which is a little strange, but not inaccurate!
Yes very true! It is odd sounding but as you say not inaccurate at all.
I boarded a TfW service from LLandudno to Manchester Airport a few weeks ago (at Chester), and the auto-announcer was "stuck" at Colwyn Bay, so it announced all stations from there to Manchester in Welsh and English at every stop.
Complete with "thank you for travelling..." waffle and a nice long pause between languages to give you a false sense of peace before the next one.
I prefer the SBB approach of announcing a list of connections and platforms when approaching an interchange. The equivalent at Crewe would be "For London: platform 5, hh:mm; for Manchester: platform 6, hh:mm; for Stoke, Derby and Newark platform 2, hh:mm" etc.
Let me guess, the train was one which started at Junction rather than Llandudno itself? It's a bug with any 197 that starts at Junction and heads east, a daily occurrence with 1H88 which is always formed as such. Driver needs to cancel the journey on the TMS and enter it in again.
Just checked back, and it was indeed 1H88. At least I know now that there's a reason (even if not a very *good* reason
).Thought so. Happens every day with 1H88 but a switched on guard will notice and get the driver to reset it. Currently that's the only 197 booked to start at Junction and head east on weekdays, though if other services (1K02, 1D70 etc.) are formed of a 197 vice 158 then the same bug will surface.Just checked back, and it was indeed 1H88. At least I know now that there's a reason (even if not a very *good* reason
This doesn’t explain why we can’t just text 999.
Because 999 is for emergencies, not for situations you might be a little bit concerned about.
I wonder if the BTP have realised that constantly badgering passengers with the SeeItSayItSortIt message is paradoxically deterring people from reporting incidents of concern? For example, twice in recent weeks I've come across situations which could be interpreted as suspicious; one where someone had left what looked to be a small DIY tool box by the basin in the toilet on the train and another where a man in Sikh costume was walking down the platorm with what appeared to be a ceremonial sword concealing beneath his garment.
Not only that, it's also likely not representive of the population as a whole.
Fortunately.
It's not the jingle (there's isn't one) it's the implied message that we should spend our entire rail journeys fearfully panicking and checking up on our fellow passengers.
that is your own interpretation. I certainly don't feel that. I have, however, used the text number to report anti social behaviour on trains and seen a response ( some of the time!)