Southampton Signaling problems this morning

[ajdunlop]

There have been big problems this morning and 'until further notice' at Southampton Central due to over running Signaling works and now Signaling problems. Does anyone know what the Signaling work was this weekend and why it might have gone wrong?

 

[swt_passenger]

There have been big problems this morning and 'until further notice' at Southampton Central due to over running Signaling works and now Signaling problems. Does anyone know what the Signaling work was this weekend and why it might have gone wrong?

Final changeover from the old to the new interlocking and testing - the weekend was the big change period, they have been installing the new interlocking in the background for many months.

Ample scope for teething troubles. I see FGW are diverting via Eastleigh at the moment, which frees up some paths...

 

[wowbagger]

Hmm, was supposed to be working from the office in London tomorrow so I may call the boss & tell him that I shan't bother if it's going to take ages to get up there & back.

Shame because I bet the 07:38 SOA to WAT will be empty tomorrow.

 

[ajdunlop]

Final changeover from the old to the new interlocking and testing - the weekend was the big change period, they have been installing the new interlocking in the background for many months.

Ample scope for teething troubles. I see FGW are diverting via Eastleigh at the moment, which frees up some paths...

Thanks for the reply,
What's the difference between the old and new? Is it just replacing life expired equipment?
The FGW diversion this morning was very useful, allowed me to get to Romsey.

 

[swt_passenger]

Thanks for the reply,
What's the difference between the old and new? Is it just replacing life expired equipment?

I think so - there don't seem to be any major changes AFAICT. I think there was a short piece in MR a while back that mentioned what the new technology was, I'll try and dig it out later.

Edit: Found a press release, it's Signalling Solution's (Alstom/Balfour Beatty) 'Smartlock' interfaced with existing equipment - saves looking through back issues of MR...

http://www.alstom.com/transport/new...terlockings-in-the-Southampton-area-20100128/

Most of the recent S&C work at the station has only been like for like replacement as well, although they did remove that short siding off the down main by the tunnel.

 

[Oracle]

I know it's OTT but yesterday I saw Arriva XC trains parked in the end all platforms at Eastleigh.

Local TV said this morning that there were problems as a result of 'overrunning engineering work'.

Interesting that the stub track, last used by a p/way machine that I can recall, has gone.

 

[ajdunlop]

Day 2! Things must have gone very wrong.

 

[swt_passenger]

Day 2! Things must have gone very wrong.

A spokesman for Network Rail said:

‘The signal renewal work, which ran into yesterday morning have been solved.

‘Today’s disruptions are signalling related that can happen at any time.’

Of course they're used to this sort of thing in Portsmouth, and yes that odd first sentence IS a direct copy from the 'News' website, not a typo...

 

[Oracle]

There was an Eastleigh-Salisbury shuttle via Chandlers Ford today, no AXC trains beyond Southampton to Bournemouth, and no trains stopping at Millbrook in the Down direction. All good fun!

 

[Hampshire Unit]

One of the reasons was due to a faulty batch of relays supplied and used during the work :roll:

 

[daza7789]

The work is as mentioned an interlocking renewal. The interface between all the equipment (signals/points/track circuits) and the panels in eastleigh ASC has be renewed with SSI (solid state interlocking) technology

It involved the compleate renewal of Totton, Southampton and Mount pleasant interlockings, That is a hell of alot of disconections and testing to be done.

Unfortunaty there has been glitches, 1 of the main problems is that the train discribers throughout the area have not been working properly. A cable fault on Tuesday also caused a loss of control of signalling at Totton.

 

[Oracle]

My son had to go to Eastleigh College this morning by train..normally he catches the 0812 from Ashurst to Southampton Central 2B then over the bridge to Platform 1 and waits for the Romsey train. That was cancelled, because of the replacement shuttle from Eastleigh-Salisbury and so the 0812 was extra-stopped at St Denys, Swaythling and Eastleigh. Handy! However, what about Redbridge and Millbrook? Are they being served by FGW trains?

 

[dcd]

My son had to go to Eastleigh College this morning by train..normally he catches the 0812 from Ashurst to Southampton Central 2B then over the bridge to Platform 1 and waits for the Romsey train. That was cancelled, because of the replacement shuttle from Eastleigh-Salisbury and so the 0812 was extra-stopped at St Denys, Swaythling and Eastleigh. Handy! However, what about Redbridge and Millbrook? Are they being served by FGW trains?

SWT trains to and from Weymouth are stopping at Millbrook and Redbridge.

 

[Lrd]

SWT trains to and from Weymouth are stopping at Millbrook and Redbridge.

I thought it was the Poole stopping service making extra stops at Swaythling, St Deny's, Millbrook, and Redbridge, it already stops at Eastleigh, Southampton Airport, Central, Totton and Ashurst.

 

[Oracle]

I am certain that today's ex-Poole stopper (0812 at Ashurst) went straight from Totton to Central. That was noteworthy at the time. Those pax for St Denys and Swaythling had to alight from the front door of the 444.

 

[swt_passenger]

I thought it was the Poole stopping service making extra stops at Swaythling, St Deny's, Millbrook, and Redbridge, it already stops at Eastleigh, Southampton Airport, Central, Totton and Ashurst.

It depends on direction - earlier today I noticed at St Denys they were the down Weymouths stopping, but in the up direction it was the ex - Pooles.

Edit: LDBs are showing all four additional down calls in the Weymouths (xx51 at Southampton), St Denys and Swaythling are up ex Pooles, but Redbridge and Millbrook are in up Weymouths (xx30 at Southampton).

 

[moonrakerz]

Are they being served by FGW trains?

The last I saw was that the FGW stuff was missing Soton completely, going: Romsey-Chandlers Ford-Eastleigh-Fareham.

 

[swt_passenger]

The last I saw was that the FGW stuff was missing Soton completely, going: Romsey-Chandlers Ford-Eastleigh-Fareham.

FGW were running normally by about 1200 yesterday, and were this morning as well when I was in Southampton. At one stage (around 1000 yesterday) the ex-Brighton service that goes through Southampton about 1045 was showing on LDBs twice, once via Southampton, and the other missing Southampton, so I think they must have been sorting things out at that moment...

 

[moonrakerz]

FGW were running normally by about 1200 yesterday, and were this morning as well when I was in Southampton.

"normally" ? This afternoon I saw 2 services heading Portsmouth way, both about 25 mins late....................:roll:

 

[Crossover]

Looks like things may be sorted for tomorrow according to the NRE Disruptions Facebook posts...time will tell I guess!

 

[Oracle]

My son was peed off because his 0812 from Ashurst sat at Southampton Central for about 20 minutes so he was eventually late for college. Let's hope that the area gets back to normal soon!

 

[swt_passenger]

"normally" ? This afternoon I saw 2 services heading Portsmouth way, both about 25 mins late....................:roll:

Yes, but that's a typical delay on that route anyway.
The point is they were running through Southampton, not diverterd via Eastleigh as you suggested.

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Looks like things may be sorted for tomorrow according to the NRE Disruptions Facebook posts...time will tell I guess!

Assume you meant 'by Friday' - as you posted overnight at 0146?

The normal Saturday service is operating today 29th AFAICT - so it looks to be fixed.

 

[Crossover]

Assume you meant 'by Friday' - as you posted overnight at 0146?

The normal Saturday service is operating today 29th AFAICT - so it looks to be fixed.

Yes I did - sorry, really wasn't thinking properly by that time - as I was still up I saw "today" as "tomorrow"

 

[thefab444]

My son had to go to Eastleigh College this morning by train..normally he catches the 0812 from Ashurst to Southampton Central 2B then over the bridge to Platform 1 and waits for the Romsey train. That was cancelled, because of the replacement shuttle from Eastleigh-Salisbury and so the 0812 was extra-stopped at St Denys, Swaythling and Eastleigh. Handy! However, what about Redbridge and Millbrook? Are they being served by FGW trains?

The 0812 from Ashurst is booked to stop at St Denys (0853), Swaythling (0856) and Eastleigh (0903 - 0914) anyway.

 

[Oracle]

I suppose then that the Salisbury train overtakes so that you can get to Eastleigh quicker?