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Afternoon, I take it this is for a trainee driver?
If so, it starts at 24k for rules and regs training which is aprox 50 days, then goes up to 29.5k for traction training, then once you have signed your core routes and passed out it’s 47k. Then once you have a years experience of driving it goes to 54.5k. The training should take between 12-18 months
Apologies yes, I should have specified. But you have answered by question perfectly! Thank you
No problem!
Indeed. Southeastern has a huge churn of drivers and loads of other TOCs an easy commute away.
Perhaps the drivers of other TOCs are overpaid?
NSEWonderer
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Even ignoring pay the T and Cs are shocking. Other tocs offer better T and Cs just starting from that
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Which Ts and Cs are particularly bad compared to other TOCs i’m curious?
NSEWonderer
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You'd have to compare with other TOCs specifically. Generally it's said that you can often bargain with TandCs for a pay increase etc bur SE lost most of it ages ago so doesn't have a lot to bargain with. Sundays for example part of the working week of which other tocs(not all) managed to sell theirs for a health pay increase.
It also has its own internal issues but abiet we digress the main thing will be the t and Cs and workload which isn't as great as other TOCs but such information only matters to qualifieds rather than new starters. I actually quite prefer jumping into an SE or GA etc as of you manage thru the workload and pay etc and have a clean record then you look very good to other TOCs as these tocs have some of the densest metro work.
hi,
Would you mind confirm how long the traction training is and am i reading it right that it will take 12-18 months to get to 47k?
Cheers
Exactly that!
Hello all.
I want to know on a average, how much do SouthEastern drivers take a home year. This includes allowances, and weekend shifts(I am assuming Sunday shifts attracts a premium). I passed the test today and have an interview on the way, my current role take home is decent, just want to know if it is worth pursuing.
Hi mate, I’ve started as a trainee driver for Southeastern at the beginning of Jan so I can’t say how much a fully qualified driver would take home across the year, only a qualified driver could answer that.
However I know that Southeastern don’t pay a premium rate for Sunday work as it’s considered a normal day in the working week. Your chance to earn more would be during rest days, which are paid again at the normal rate, but you also get a £45 booking on bonus.
The drivers union are in dispute over terms and conditions at the moment which includes pay but I don’t know how much extra they’re going to get from that.
Hope that helps a bit!
Take home (after tax, NI, pension), around £40k a year. This is for a fully qualified metro driver with over one year driving experience.
I’d say that’s closer to it. DLR passenger service agents aren’t far off SE driver pay now, especially depots without London weighting (I know this because one of our guards is off to join them!).
Meanwhile comparable operators such London Overground, SWR Metro etc. are hitting are hitting circa. £75k basic, for similar work, and similar-to-better Ts and Cs.
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Grossly underpaid ! All that hard work. I could barely pay for a new watch !!
Depends on the watch in question, I suppose (probably a discussion for another thread)!
Thank you. It will help make my decision. Currently work in the railway and my basic is less than that excluding my Sundays.
Thank you. Just finding it difficult to work out, I should have asked for average annual take home before tax NI and pension deduction. No point leaving my current role if pay is going to be less.
The comment made is an appauling one.. this race to the bottom nonsense is embarrassing
However.... its a tremendous career no matter where. So i encourage all trainees to get in where they can get in..
Think about salary and moving later
Good luck to all
However.... its a tremendous career no matter where. So i encourage all trainees to get in where they can get in..
Think about salary and moving later
Good luck to all
If you are "chasing a pound note' go elsewhere. SE notoriously pay less.
Which comment ?
This Fuels the problem where one TOC becomes a training TOC, with depressed salary and then other TOCs only take qualified Drivers and are incredibly difficult to get in.
Be careful what you wish for.
NSEWonderer
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To be fair it depends on the commitments someone has on their existing Salary. Personally I always live within a cushion of salary vs expenditure, that way its easier to take a "hit" for a while which is all worth it for this kind of career
As far as I'm aware, Salary after tax is around 3k per 4 week cycle, Lower if you up your pension contributions, also possibly lower if your paying back student loan - you will lose around 2-300 pounds so it will bring you down to around 2.7-2.8k every 4 weeks.
Overtime you get paid the hourly rate + 45 booking on fee (which hasn't changed for many years) but like others have said SE has become a training TOC alot of the drivers are fed up hence the constant recruitment of trainees and the comment regarding other TOCs being over paid,
Bare in mind drivers at SE haven't had a pay rise for 5 years come April so if they had inflation linked rises over that period they would probably be in line with other TOCs but alas here we are.
Overtime you get paid the hourly rate + 45 booking on fee (which hasn't changed for many years) but like others have said SE has become a training TOC alot of the drivers are fed up hence the constant recruitment of trainees and the comment regarding other TOCs being over paid,
Bare in mind drivers at SE haven't had a pay rise for 5 years come April so if they had inflation linked rises over that period they would probably be in line with other TOCs but alas here we are.
This online salary calculator is an excellent way of determining take home pay for a given salary, and you can model the impact of factors such as student loan, being paid four weekly (which means a slightly lower pay than monthly, because you get thirteen pay checks) etc,
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Hi mate I’ve got my start date for April. Still waiting for the contract to come through. I know there’s no holiday for the first couple of months. My family are wanting to go away for 7 nights next February (a years time) do you know if that’s possible after seeing the contract and having started, or is it no holiday until qualified. Just wondering as holiday accommodation needs to be booked well in advance and need to know whether or not I can. Any insight appreciated. Cheers!
Did you let them know in your interview if you had any holiday dates as they will often try and accommodate any pre booked holiday ?
There are many variables here and it will depend at what stage of the process you are in when you need the holiday. Once you start, you should be able to get a projected date for passing out (yes also very variable) but you can get a good insight depending on which depot you are at.
Your best option will be to speak to your DM when you start and ask what the holiday situation is. I believe SE will send your DM's name to you when you get your job offer.
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