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Southern 455 Diagram Request

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Solent&Wessex

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Hi Guys,

Does anyone have access to the diagrams for the Southern 455s which they could post on here by any chance?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Certainly these days all the London Bridge - Caterham via Norbury stoppers tend to be 455s. On Saturdays all the London Bridge - Coulsdon Town stoppers via Sydenham are also typically 455s. Everything else is a bit of a lottery really.
 

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I tend to see the Victoria - West Croydon - Sutton - Epsom Downs corridor as consistently 455. Though again, 377’s are still frequent on those. Beckenham Junction is also a pretty good place to find them. The only routes I’d say that are fairly solidly 377 are routes via Mitcham Junction to Victoria and the Cats/Tats splitters. Anything else can be 455.
 

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Hi Guys,

Does anyone have access to the diagrams for the Southern 455s which they could post on here by any chance?

Thanks in advance.
I have extracted all the following info from the CWN.

There are 46 units for 42 diagrams with 4 maintenance units.
They work as follows (SX)

VIC to EPD
509/510 They spilt at VIC and 509 works 1400 to EPD as a 4 car attaching back to 510 on return to VIC at 1611. 510 goes to Stewarts Lane Depot for a couple of hours.
523/524
519/520
537/538
517/518

LBG to ECR
516/515
527/528

LBG to BKJ
508/507
502/501
530/529

LBG to CAT
505/506
526/525
511/512
503/504
513/514

533/534 Spare at Streatham Hill Shed
535/536 Spare at Stewarts Lane Depot
531/532 Spare at Selhurst Depot

Units out in Peaks only:

539/540 only works one trip: - 2F06 0639 SRH to LBG then goes the Stewarts Lane Depot

521/522 2B06 0616 VIC to SUO 2B13 0711 SUO to VIC then onto Stewarts Lane Depot then works 5T52 1708 to LBG
541/542 2F03 0628 LBG to VIC then onto Selhurst Depot until 1522 5B86 to VIC

Hope you find this helpful, you can work out what they all do from RTT.
 

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So you’re saying that everything on

Victoria to Epsom Downs
Bridge to East Croydon
Bridge to Beckenham
Bridge to Caterham

is a 455?
 

TT-ONR-NRN

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So you’re saying that everything on

Victoria to Epsom Downs
Bridge to East Croydon
Bridge to Beckenham
Bridge to Caterham

is a 455?
No, Victoria to Epsom Downs, Bridge to Coulsdon Town via New Cross are solely 455, but Bridge to Beckenham and Caterham via Sth Bermondsey is shared. :)
 

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I have extracted all the following info from the CWN.

There are 46 units for 42 diagrams with 4 maintenance units.
They work as follows (SX)

VIC to EPD
509/510 They spilt at VIC and 509 works 1400 to EPD as a 4 car attaching back to 510 on return to VIC at 1611. 510 goes to Stewarts Lane Depot for a couple of hours.
523/524
519/520
537/538
517/518

LBG to ECR
516/515
527/528

LBG to BKJ
508/507
502/501
530/529

LBG to CAT
505/506
526/525
511/512
503/504
513/514

533/534 Spare at Streatham Hill Shed
535/536 Spare at Stewarts Lane Depot
531/532 Spare at Selhurst Depot

Interesting that inter-working seems to have been eliminated: in the 80s, judging from CWNs, it used to be much more commonplace (as it minimised platform occupancy and optimised turnaround time at Victoria) and on the Waterloo suburbans I believe inter-working still happens.
 
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Does anyone know which services will be operated by 455s this bank holiday Monday? Specifically any to Dorking?
Thanks
 

Murray J

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Ok, thanks

Would you mind linking/sharing the diagrams that you are using?
Thanks
i'm using this. Bear in mind these are for weekdays, the services listed still operate to my knowledge but some are operated by 377s.
 

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I'm planning a ride tomorrow (Saturday) on the Southern 455s.

There seems to be major engineering work on Southern, with no trains to Beckenham Junction and a shuttle between Purley and Tattenham Corner.

So where can I find 455s this Saturday? Only Victoria - Epsom Downs?
 

TT-ONR-NRN

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I'm planning a ride tomorrow (Saturday) on the Southern 455s.

There seems to be major engineering work on Southern, with no trains to Beckenham Junction and a shuttle between Purley and Tattenham Corner.

So where can I find 455s this Saturday? Only Victoria - Epsom Downs?
They don’t go to Tattenham Corner, and try Tulse Hill Caterham services.
 

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They don’t go to Tattenham Corner, and try Tulse Hill Caterham services.
Single 5-car 377 advertised for the next one of those Tulse Hill services from Purley, not 455s.

The slow lines are shut through East Croydon and South Croydon today and tomorrow.

Single 455 (think 455817) seen working 0602 London Victoria to Epsom Downs so at least one is out.

2B03 0610 Selhurst to London Victoria is 455812.
 
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LA50041

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I'm planning a ride tomorrow (Saturday) on the Southern 455s.

There seems to be major engineering work on Southern, with no trains to Beckenham Junction and a shuttle between Purley and Tattenham Corner.

So where can I find 455s this Saturday? Only Victoria - Epsom Downs?
Victoria- Epsom Downs/Sutton/west Croydon via Crystal Palace are pretty much solid 455
Tulsa Hill - Caterham via Crystal Palace are majorly 455’s
 
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