Split ticketing using season ticket when only joining train at starting station

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If you have a season ticket one can combine it with other tickets and not have to have be on a train that stops at the station you pass through.

If you have a season ticket from say Stevenage to Cambridge and you wanted to travel south of Stevenage, using split tickets, could you combine your season ticket and not stop at the split station or does your journey have to have included actual travel along the line your season ticket is valid?

 

[yorkie]

See: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/Conditions of Travel 2016.pdf

...If you are using a Season Ticket, daily Zonal Ticket, or another area based Ticket such as a concessionary pass, ranger or rover in conjunction with another Ticket and the last station at which one Ticket is valid and the first station that the other Ticket is valid are the same, then the train does not need to call at that station for your combination to be valid....

There are many threads where this is discussed also

 

[soil]

The season needs to be usable for some part of the journey

 

[Tetchytyke]

My belief is the train has to pass through the station you change tickets, but the train doesn't have to call there.

You couldn't, for instance, combine a Cambridge-Stevenage and Stevenage-London ticket to travel via Harlow to Liverpool Street. You could use that combination on the Cambridge Flyer to Kings Cross though.

 

[Romilly]

It's not quite clear what you are asking here.

If you are asking about (say) a Stevenage to Finsbury Park journey, with tickets split at (say) Alexandra Palace, then I would say that you have to use a train that stops at Alexandra Palace: you are not using your season ticket for any part of your journey.

But if you are making a Cambridge (or Letchworth, say) to Finsbury Park journey, using your season ticket as far as Stevenage, and then a Stevenage-Finsbury Park ticket, I think that the Conditions of Travel mean that you can get a train that doesn't stop at Stevenage.

 

[yorkie]

It's not quite clear what you are asking here.

If you are asking about (say) a Stevenage to Finsbury Park journey, with tickets split at (say) Alexandra Palace, then I would say that you have to use a train that stops at Alexandra Palace: you are not using your season ticket for any part of your journey.

But if you are making a Cambridge (or Letchworth, say) to Finsbury Park journey, using your season ticket as far as Stevenage, and then a Stevenage-Finsbury Park ticket, I think that the Conditions of Travel mean that you can get a train that doesn't stop at Stevenage.

Agreed.

 

[infobleep]

It's not quite clear what you are asking here.

If you are asking about (say) a Stevenage to Finsbury Park journey, with tickets split at (say) Alexandra Palace, then I would say that you have to use a train that stops at Alexandra Palace: you are not using your season ticket for any part of your journey.

But if you are making a Cambridge (or Letchworth, say) to Finsbury Park journey, using your season ticket as far as Stevenage, and then a Stevenage-Finsbury Park ticket, I think that the Conditions of Travel mean that you can get a train that doesn't stop at Stevenage.

That is indeed the question. One is not using the season ticket for the journey but one is at the station where they might start a journey with it. So they might enter the station using their season ticket but then make a different journey heading in the opposite direction.

I guess if it's not allowed and another station, that is on one's season ticket route, is nearby, one could start their journey there.

Another option if one was regularly making journeys, would be to start their season ticket one station in the opposite direction to the direction they usually head, then they would always be using their season ticket for a journey and could split without having to stop at the station.

This question was more hypertheical than anything else because for the journey I was investigating, the split ticket saving didn't make it worth while going to any other station to start a journey.

 

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Thanks for all the replies. It was what I expected but I thought I'd ask anyway as the routing guide and conditions of travel sometimes throws up things one might not expect.