Stagecoach Cumbria and North Lancashire

[Blindtraveler]

Well will be interesting to see how they stand up to reliability tests on both workings from Carlisle and on the fairly demanding X4 and X5

 

[chiltern trev]

Well will be interesting to see how they stand up to reliability tests on both workings from Carlisle and on the fairly demanding X4 and X5

In what way would you describe the X4/X5 as demanding?

 

[tram21]

In what way would you describe the X4/X5 as demanding?

I'd say it is, but probably not as demanding as the X17 in Derbyshire they were on before

 

[Teapot42]

I'd say it is, but probably not as demanding as the X17 in Derbyshire they were on before

I don't know the nature of the route, but the failures I observed were mostly on the 'urban' section, rather than the higher speed country and motorway runs. They have done a lot of miles, but then the Scania E400s are 3 years older and are soldiering on without a problem.

At least one of the MMCs has had a new engine in the last year (11124 maybe?). I just hope the route isn't too hilly, as they really struggle compared to the Scanias.

 

[mangad]

I don't know the nature of the route, but the failures I observed were mostly on the 'urban' section, rather than the higher speed country and motorway runs. They have done a lot of miles, but then the Scania E400s are 3 years older and are soldiering on without a problem.

At least one of the MMCs has had a new engine in the last year (11124 maybe?). I just hope the route isn't too hilly, as they really struggle compared to the Scanias.

I only know the Cockermouth to Penrith section but on that the X4 and X5 go along good roads. There are a few ups and downs but overall it's pretty straightforward running in terms of gradient.

 

[Russel]

I only know the Cockermouth to Penrith section but on that the X4 and X5 go along good roads. There are a few ups and downs but overall it's pretty straightforward running in terms of gradient.

I've done the Penrith to Keswick part a couple of times and also don't recall anything too arduous, there's a bit of high speed running on a dual carriageway, from memory but If they can't handle that then I think we have bigger issues in general.

 

[Hyebone]

The former Ches MMCs have been hammered on the likes of Slack Hill (a 14% incline!), Cromford Hill, Lime Tree Hill, Worsborough and Heeley. Hopefully they get a rest.

 

[YorkRailFan]

Done the X4 between Cockermouth and Penrith, some ups and downs on the route, but it is quite long and frequent so is intensive in that regard.

 

[chiltern trev]

I don't know the nature of the route, but the failures I observed were mostly on the 'urban' section, rather than the higher speed country and motorway runs. They have done a lot of miles, but then the Scania E400s are 3 years older and are soldiering on without a problem.

How many miles have they done?

And how does that compare to the other similar aged E400MMCs 11157 and 11158 that have done 685 Newcastle day in and day for a few years? I see 11155 and 11156 are now clocking up the Newcastle miles.

 

[Hyebone]

How many miles have they done?

Upwards of 400k.

 

[chiltern trev]

According to photos on the Facebook group, 11125 arrived at Carlisle in the last few days (it was still in Chesterfield on Saturday) and has been on 600 Cockermouth and 79 Dumfries.