Stagecoach East Scotland

[RomeoCharlie71]

Contactless payments to be available from Monday 3rd December.

 

[overthewater]

Aberhill Depot is getting 16 new E400MMC from this years order.

 

[mbonwick]

Wonder what they're for? Best I can come up with is Scania E400/ADL E300 replacement

 

[overthewater]

It would seem the batch is at least to be used on Route No7 and 95/97 routes. However that comes to around 12. So what will the other four be used to operate? 7A? which are not worth it? 43/44? again. Or could we see some service changes planned for May?

 

[mbonwick]

7A interworks with the 7, and the 97 works off it. Similarly, the 395 works off the 95.

Add that up and you've got a PVR of 15, so 1 spare.

 

[overthewater]

7a does not justify such investment, never has over the last 20 years. 95 and 97 at least do.

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

7A interworks with the 7...

Are you sure? From what I've seen, the 7 is allocated ADL Enviro300 single deckers, whilst the 7A tends to get a mixed back of ALX400 Tridents weekdays and Solos/Versas on Saturday.

 

[overthewater]

7 and 7A has never interworked, expect for a few journeys,

 

[route101]

Are you sure? From what I've seen, the 7 is allocated ADL Enviro300 single deckers, whilst the 7A tends to get a mixed back of ALX400 Tridents weekdays and Solos/Versas on Saturday.

7 i took was a 58 plate with high back seats , little legroom , very cramped

 

[mbonwick]

The PVR card for Aberhill reads as follows:
7/7A ADL E300 10.5
97 ADL E300 0.5

So from that you can see that the 7/7A are treated together for allocating purposes, though as there's only 2 spare E300s with 1 long term VOR, its not surprising Tridents/Versas etc appear

 

[overthewater]

The Fleet card is misleading at times.

7, 7A do not interwork for 99% of the time, and fact the 7A has school worked clamped on. No7 bus has PVR for 9, and 7A has PVR 4. Yet 95 and 97 are interworked at St Andrews thus PVR is 4, however 395 boast that higher.

I would rather have the new buses on 7 and 95.

 

[GaryMcEwan]

Is Perth getting ready to ditch Gold and transfer the E350H's?

At least two of them have been put into corporate livery with ALX400's and E300's now making regular appearances on the 7s...

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Yup, plan is to send them to Aberdeen allowing their Hydrogens to go to First. This is once Aberhill get their new buses allowing Enviro 300s to be displaced to Perth

 

[GaryMcEwan]

Quite surprised at this if they are planning on ditching Gold. Fantastic, can't wait to see what ruined E300s we get to suffer when Fife send through...

 

[overthewater]

There only 5 year old stock and there are in good nick being used on the 7's. Mind there come from Inverness..

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

I can only hope that the Fife 7 may get branded Gold with its new buses? Chances are unlikely though

 

[GaryMcEwan]

So if I'm right in thinking then, if Perth does get rid of Gold altogether they'll be no Gold services in Scotland at all.

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Aberhill depot are to receive a number of Scania OmniCity's from London to replace 18092-18100, which will move to Rennies, as a result of the 15 year age cap on East Fife school services (Central and West Fife are 20 years).

44015 is now part of the Arbroath ancillary fleet, although has seen service this week on both the 34 (Brechin Town Service), and 39 (Arbroath to Perth).

 

[overthewater]

Aberhill is getting 24 new/newer buses. Is anything else due? there has been talk other stuff like newer darts?

 

[Fifescottish]

Why the difference between east, west and central Fife?

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Aberhill is getting 24 new/newer buses. Is anything else due? there has been talk other stuff like newer darts?

Why would "newer" Darts come to East Scotland when East Scotland doesn't even have any Darts at the present moment? I heard we were also getting extra Scania E400s but they may have been mistaken for the Scania Omnicity's.
Dundee is set to have a LEZ in place by 2020 so Arbroath will also need some new/cascaded vehicles by then.

Why the difference between east, west and central Fife?

Different tenders issued at different times. Xplore Dundee will also need to use newer vehicles on their Madras and Greyfriars contracts as the current 54-reg vehicles will surpass the 15 year age limit.

Also bear in mind there are service changes earmarked in the not too distant future.

 

[overthewater]

To kill of the nasty Versa. Nearly all of them are in an awful state. Also What service changes? next lots not till August?

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

To kill of the nasty Versa. Nearly all of them are in an awful state. Also What service changes? next lots not till August?

The Versas were brought in to replace the Darts, so why would Darts come back to replace the Versas? ... That makes no sense!

 

[Jordan Adam]

Seems odd that the Versa's are hated so much, when they were up here on the 727 they were fantastic motors.

 

[Fifescottish]

The Versas are struggling, a lot of them now 12 years old. Seems crazy to bring in Darts (E200s?) when E200s were replaced by Versas?

More service changes? Is Mrch not normally when fares go up as well?

 

[Surreyman]

Why would "newer" Darts come to East Scotland when East Scotland doesn't even have any Darts at the present moment? I heard we were also getting extra Scania E400s but they may have been mistaken for the Scania Omnicity's.
Dundee is set to have a LEZ in place by 2020 so Arbroath will also need some new/cascaded vehicles by then.



Different tenders issued at different times. Xplore Dundee will also need to use newer vehicles on their Madras and Greyfriars contracts as the current 54-reg vehicles will surpass the 15 year age limit.

Also bear in mind there are service changes earmarked in the not too distant future.

30 odd Volvo B5LH/Wright Hybrid 'deckers at Plumstead in South East London are reported as up for replacement very soon and possible cascade within Stagecoach, they are Highbridge and have dual doors?

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

The Versas are struggling, a lot of them now 12 years old. Seems crazy to bring in Darts (E200s?) when E200s were replaced by Versas?

More service changes? Is Mrch not normally when fares go up as well?

All I can say (and all I've been told) is that work is to be redistributed between depots. Fares usually rise in April in line with the new financial year.

30 odd Volvo B5LH/Wright Hybrid 'deckers at Plumstead in South East London are reported as up for replacement very soon and possible cascade within Stagecoach, they are Highbridge and have dual doors?

Could be handy for engineering purposes, however, they're on completely different bodies to the ones currently at Arbroath on 20/21 and 73 services.

 

[overthewater]

Darts/e200 were or are in a better state than versa. Anything would be better. Also if redistributed between depots happens, which I doubt, it strange since this parlty happened last November..

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

Apparently there's a Scania Omnicity with East Scotland just now 15021 LX58 CFM

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

11177 has entered service on the 7 this afternoon