Ah, the hoary old question of the X prefix.
From what I've seen, yes. Matlock to Matlock Bath is usually quite busy with decent numbers staying on through to Cromford and Wirksworth. Also I must note that the Terminus point in Wirksworth is beautiful. Depending on the duty, the driver often finds themselves with 20 minutes to kill.
Yep, I think there's a lot more people going to Chezzie as an alternative to Derby from Wirksworth since the X17 was brought to the town. What I want to know is why they don't put a couple of bus stops on Cinder Lane/Millers Green to tap into the houses round there (with more being built soon) since the bus serves it anyway. There's a few places in the town where buses drive, but no stops to pick up passengers.
Was the X17 not funded by BSIP money? If so, maybe the question should be asked of Derbyshire County Council. After all, if there would be more potential passengers if there were actually bus stops, you would think it was a no brainer
I can't say I've have been to the terminus. I did see a bus turn right as I was coming out of Wirksworth, just after the old Trent garage.
Is the old Trent depot still standing? I vaguely recall seeing it years ago but couldn't recall where it is.
No, it's been demolished, but there's a couple of industrial units in its place known as 'Old Trent Works'.
Thanks - that explains it
Shows what I notice when I drive past then. I thought the building had just been modified.. Once I was on a trip on Leyland PD2 1256, visiting old Trent depots and we called in there, and we're allowed access inside. Might have been a joinery business then. For those that don't remember the depot there, it was on the road back towards Duffield, less than 200 metres from the edge of Wirksworth on the right. I remember Leyland Atlantean 464 (64 ACH) being sub allocated there, along with a Leyland Leopard.
I realise this is getting slightly OT and if it needs moving to a new thread please do so, but how many depots did Trent have in the area? I know about the Matlock one and the Belper one, but Wirksworth seems very close to both. I've also heard of a out-station in Bradwell.
We'll answer it and try to keep it on topic...
Buses do still park in Matlock garage overnight, but mostly locked up during the day
I thought that, when I replied twice. Best not do it again.Thank you.
We'd best move back to Stagecoach stuff before the mods intervene
Ah, OK, thanks, I thought I'd read somewhere it had become an industrial unit. Certainly the times I've been past there have been no buses in sight, no obvious branding and nothing to suggest it was in use.
I am not sure how many Stagecoach buses you could even get in. I think 4 buses go in, maybe some Council type vehicle. At one time a mobile library? Don't think it can accommodate double deckers, as Trent had to park them outside when they were up there.
If you look back at Google streetview from 2016 it does show it with the door open. If it's deep enough for two buses then I'd think 6 or 8 could get in, but you are right, I'd forgotten how low it is.
I think you're right - this photo (Andy UK Transport on flickr) shows clearance couldn't accommodate deckers https://www.flickr.com/photos/66737...yHB-k4dyF2-iR48rT-iWMHVs-hAgsmR-gWzHbc-gqNd8V
Now the last time I went round Matlock depot, it was both parts (the section to the left from the road now being a tyre replacement facility). Inside were a number of Leyland Leopard chassis, awaiting bodying (W suffix). I remember an ECW Fleetline stored on land to the left, and even low height deckers parked up in the bus station. But when you talk of moving depots, you ask yourself who owns the depot. Most likely Wellglade Holdings than Trent Motor Traction. The rent from the adjacent business, may go a long way to covering the cost of the depot (as might it in Belper).
Looks like there have been some issues regarding the entry into service of new Yutong EVs at Stagecoach Yorkshire:
Provided, not Stagecoach's fault.
That's a reasonable comment - my experience from looking at the Stagecoach app each day is that there are more often than not a few 88s showing as cancelled.
That seems to say that the 6 will not serve Greystones from September
www.derbyshire.gov.uk
To be fair, they've not really had a service since last October - the re-routing of the 5 was a one-way loop meaning journey time one way was very long, plus the frequency was something odd like 1h02.Looking at those Chesterfield changes I was just about to say the suburb of Ashgate would be left without any bus services with the withdrawal of the no5, which is shocking in all fairness.
However, having just looked on Derbyshire Councils forthcoming changes it appears Hulleys are consolidating the 84 and 170 yet again whilst introducing a new no6 for Ashgate, Holme Hall onwards to Wadshelf from 2 September.
Forthcoming changes to bus services - Derbyshire County Council
There is no obvious replacement for the sections of the 2/5 to Green Farm and Newbold, neither of which are that close to any alternative routes. It would need some re-jigging of the timetable, but the 16 could be diverted via Green Farm without that much being added to the journey time. As for Newbold, to be honest I think the new 10 would be better running as two individual services to better serve all of Newbold and Dunston without having an excessive journey time. Whether that gets considered, I rather doubt.*New service* Service 6 (Chesterfield to Wadshelf (Litton peak times only))
The 6 is a new service from Chesterfield New Beetwell Street via Ashgate (Foljambe Road (out), Clarence Road (in), Ashgate Road, Chester Street, Clifton Street, Springfield Avenue, Old Hall Road, Churston Road, Greenbank Drive and Cutholme Road), Holme Hall and Old Brampton to Wadshelf, with peak hour extensions to and from Litton via Baslow, Eyam and Tideswell.
This service will be hourly, Monday to Saturday, and on Schooldays one journey per day will extend from Wadshelf via Baslow and Bakewell to/from Lady Manners School.
(Timetable to follow shortly)
Services 84 and 170 (Chesterfield to Bakewell)
Services 84 and 170 will combine to form a single hourly service (numbered 170) from the Royal Hospital via Hady, Spital, Chesterfield Rail Station, New Beetwell Street, Chatsworth Road, Holymoorside, Wadshelf, Baslow, Chatsworth House and Pilsley into Bakewell.
The 170a on evenings and Sundays will have new times but operate via the current route.
(Timetable to follow shortly)
It's interesting that the application to revise the 170 was made in early July.Looking at those Chesterfield changes I was just about to say the suburb of Ashgate would be left without any bus services with the withdrawal of the no5, which is shocking in all fairness.
However, having just looked on Derbyshire Councils forthcoming changes it appears Hulleys are consolidating the 84 and 170 yet again whilst introducing a new no6 for Ashgate, Holme Hall onwards to Wadshelf from 2 September.
Forthcoming changes to bus services - Derbyshire County Council
Do many people actually use the X17 for these few stops that it will serve? Of the 3 stop pairs on the new route, the potential usage looks quite small. I've not got too much local knowledge here, but it does look like it would just be quicker to just stick on Brightside Lane, the diversion looks useless. Just my passing observation, It'd be interesting to hear the usage at the current stops and the new stops. And is that higher than what could be gained by just sending the X17 along Brightside Lane and possibly having a faster journey?
