Station announcements at Preston stating Moss Side is a request stop

[All platforms]

As it says on the tin. I was at Preston last week as part of my doing the Blackpool South line and the stations announcements there all mentioned Moss Side as a request stop. No such announcements on any of the trains i was on and i actually alighted at Moss Side without issues before hearing any mention of a request stop. I know the guard activates the level crossing in the Preston direction so perhaps that was it.

Does anyone know where the request stop element has come from? Likely to happen? or just a mistake that's got into the system somehow?

 

[Bletchleyite]

It seems to be in the data for trains towards Blackpool only, e.g.:

Realtime Trains | 2S65 1135 Preston to Blackpool South | 08/06/2022

Real-time train running information for 2S65 1135 departure from Preston to Blackpool South on 08/06/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

but not:

Realtime Trains | 2S57 1213 Blackpool South to Preston | 08/06/2022

Real-time train running information for 2S57 1213 departure from Blackpool South to Preston on 08/06/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

No idea if it's a mistake - one way only is odd.

 

[RPI]

It seems to be in the data for trains towards Blackpool only, e.g.:

Realtime Trains | 2S65 1135 Preston to Blackpool South | 08/06/2022

Real-time train running information for 2S65 1135 departure from Preston to Blackpool South on 08/06/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

but not:

Realtime Trains | 2S57 1213 Blackpool South to Preston | 08/06/2022

Real-time train running information for 2S57 1213 departure from Blackpool South to Preston on 08/06/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

No idea if it's a mistake - one way only is odd.

Quintrell downs is a request in one direction and booked stop the other, due to the driver having to operate the level crossing heading towards Par, so its not as unusual as it sounds.

 

[Clip]

Quintrell downs is a request in one direction and booked stop the other, due to the driver having to operate the level crossing heading towards Par, so its not as unusual as it sounds.

Similar thing for Moss side in that the guard operates the crossing towards Preston - automatic towards Blackpool. didnt know it was a request stop though mind you i dont really pay much attention when im on it for looking out the window

 

[skyhigh]

Does anyone know where the request stop element has come from? Likely to happen? or just a mistake that's got into the system somehow?

It's an error in the data and will be rectified as soon as possible. It's not a request stop and trains will stop there.

 

[Deafdoggie]

Quintrell downs is a request in one direction and booked stop the other, due to the driver having to operate the level crossing heading towards Par, so its not as unusual as it sounds.

It keeps changing! I believe at the moment it's not a request stop in either direction (supported by RTT) But I've also know in times gone by it to be a request stop in both directions (which is odd because, as you say, it must stop heading to Par) Also I've know it not to be a stop at all, despite the train needing to stop (in one direction anyway) so it's all a bit of a mess!

 

[RPI]

It keeps changing! I believe at the moment it's not a request stop in either direction (supported by RTT) But I've also know in times gone by it to be a request stop in both directions (which is odd because, as you say, it must stop heading to Par) Also I've know it not to be a stop at all, despite the train needing to stop (in one direction anyway) so it's all a bit of a mess!

Ah, not been there for a few years other than during Boardmasters (when all are non stop Par to Newquay and vice versa).

Certainly was the case previously that it was request in one direction only.

 

[SargeNpton]

As it says on the tin. I was at Preston last week as part of my doing the Blackpool South line and the stations announcements there all mentioned Moss Side as a request stop. No such announcements on any of the trains i was on and i actually alighted at Moss Side without issues before hearing any mention of a request stop. I know the guard activates the level crossing in the Preston direction so perhaps that was it.

Does anyone know where the request stop element has come from? Likely to happen? or just a mistake that's got into the system somehow?

Informed sources tell me that this is correct.

 

[Parallel]

It seems to be in the data for trains towards Blackpool only, e.g.:

Realtime Trains | 2S65 1135 Preston to Blackpool South | 08/06/2022

Real-time train running information for 2S65 1135 departure from Preston to Blackpool South on 08/06/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

but not:

Realtime Trains | 2S57 1213 Blackpool South to Preston | 08/06/2022

Real-time train running information for 2S57 1213 departure from Blackpool South to Preston on 08/06/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

No idea if it's a mistake - one way only is odd.

Some stops on the Heart of Wales line are only request stops in one direction.

When travelling northbound, Ffairfach is a request stop in this direction only.

When travelling southbound, Bucknell, Dolau, Llangadog, Llanwrda, Llandybie and Ammanford are request stops in this direction only.

On the Conwy Valley Line, Tal-y-Cafn is a request stop northbound but is a mandatory stop southbound.

I think it relates to the adjacent crossings.

 

[Hugo3000]

Informed sources tell me that this is correct.

Sorry, your 'informed sources' tell you what is correct?

 

[SargeNpton]

Sorry, your 'informed sources' tell you what is correct?

That the request stops at Moss Side in one direction only are meant to be there.

 

[Hugo3000]

Right. Well they're wrong as it's not a request stop in either direction. Though it'll take a while for the CIS system to be changed.

 

[Watershed]

As it says on the tin. I was at Preston last week as part of my doing the Blackpool South line and the stations announcements there all mentioned Moss Side as a request stop. No such announcements on any of the trains i was on and i actually alighted at Moss Side without issues before hearing any mention of a request stop. I know the guard activates the level crossing in the Preston direction so perhaps that was it.

Does anyone know where the request stop element has come from? Likely to happen? or just a mistake that's got into the system somehow?

The fact that it's marked as a request stop is unlikely to be an error - there has to be a deliberate decision on the part of the planner (at Northern and ultimately NR) to add in the request stop activity code, R (in lieu of the normal 'station call' activity code, T).

That said, it could have been copied over from an old timetable for example.

 

[SargeNpton]

Right. Well they're wrong as it's not a request stop in either direction. Though it'll take a while for the CIS system to be changed.

The CIS screens are reflecting what is in the timetable data feed - as bid for by Northern and published by Network Rail. As Watershed has said above, inputting a request stop has to be done as a deliberate decision.

 

[Deafdoggie]

The CIS screens are reflecting what is in the timetable data feed - as bid for by Northern and published by Network Rail. As Watershed has said above, inputting a request stop has to be done as a deliberate decision.

But it doesn't mean it was a correct deliberate action!

 

[SargeNpton]

But it doesn't mean it was a correct deliberate action!

But my informed sources say that it is.

 

[Hugo3000]

It is an error. Your informed sources are completely wrong!

 

[SargeNpton]

It is an error. Your informed sources are completely wrong!

I will leave you to take it up with Northern's train planning team then.

 

[Hugo3000]

There is nothing to take up. Northern have requested that the error is rectified but as I said it'll take a while.

 

[skyhigh]

There is nothing to take up. Northern have requested that the error is rectified but as I said it'll take a while.

This is correct.

 

[ayubdaud]

Surely if it is an error it is a quick fix for Northern to request to NR planning as a data fix?

 

[noddingdonkey]

Somebody is just trolling Geoff Marshall with another one to tick off