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Stations rebranded to Great British Railways design / Rail Alphabet 2

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Ashley Hill said:
The old and new on one sign noted at Liskeard. New vinyl over the Regional Railways sign. Clearly this does not work. Interestingly the old FGW and Wessex stickers covering the old RR branding would have had to have been peeled off to put the new one on.
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That’s very obviously GWR branding, not RA2.
 
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Contrary to the planning document I posted earlier in this thread, the rail wayfinding signage at The Sidings (below the old Waterloo International) has been installed in the old white-on-blue Network Rail Brunel style.
 
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nlogax said:
GWR used Glypha up until now. As serif faces go it's quite a nice one and it'll be a shame to see it go.
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I passed the yet to open Reading Green Park this morning and the signage is all in GWR Glypha. An RA2-free zone!
 
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New Thanet Parkway has SE signs with RA2 font
 

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The one and only RA2 sign at Waterloo so far. Looks kind of OK, but they need to make up their minds which way they want to direct passengers to the Jubilee and W&C lines from that end of the station!
 

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Goldfish62 said:
The one and only RA2 sign at Waterloo so far. Looks kind of OK, but they need to make up their minds which way they want to direct passengers to the Jubilee and W&C lines from that end of the station!
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That’s very obviously not RA2. It’s the font Network Rail managed stations have used for the past ten years or so. And Stagecoach SWT & EMT.
 
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TT-ONR-NRN said:
That’s very obviously not RA2. It’s the font Network Rail managed stations have used for the past ten years or so. And Stagecoach SWT & EMT.
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"Very obviously"? Well, you're obviously an expert in such matters, but this mere mortal assumed that a sign done in the new style would use RA2 typeface.

So, the typeface is not RA2, but the layout, colours and arrow pictogram are certainly to the new style.
 
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Goldfish62 said:
"Very obviously"? Well, you're obviously an expert in such matters, but this mere mortal assumed that a sign done in the new style would use RA2 typeface.

So, the typeface is not RA2, but the layout, colours and arrow pictogram are certainly to the new style.
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You don’t need to be offended by my wording, which was simply to denote that there is a rather significant difference between it and RA2. I’m sorry if you were.

I am noticing more and more people are posting signage in here that is Helvetica or Calibri or whatever though. I’m wondering if people are struggling to recognise the RA2 font. Says a lot about how it stands as a recognisable typeface for a recognisable brand I guess.
 
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TT-ONR-NRN said:
You don’t need to be offended by my wording, which was simply to denote that there is a rather significant difference between it and RA2. I’m sorry if you were.

I am noticing more and more people are posting signage in here that is Helvetica or Calibri or whatever though. I’m wondering if people are struggling to recognise the RA2 font. Says a lot about how it stands as a recognisable typeface for a recognisable brand I guess.
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Why shouldn't I be offended? Your response came across as superior and condescending.

Anyway, back to the topic in question. I can't recall seeing any other example posted here of GBR-style signage, but with non-RA2 typeface unless I've missed it.
 
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HarryL said:
As mentioned, this appears to be Helvetica rather than RA2. An interesting one nonetheless though as St Pancras has had it's own typeface called Barlow (can be seen on the Lift sign) which this has ignored.
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It's ... old Rail Alphabet resurrected! The 'a' gives it away. This is, I think, the second example that has been posted of the old version returning alongside the new symbols.

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TT-ONR-NRN said:
You don’t need to be offended by my wording, which was simply to denote that there is a rather significant difference between it and RA2. I’m sorry if you were.
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Come on. That Waterloo sign has by far the closest resemblance to RA2 out of most of the non-RA2 photos on this thread. It really isn't much of a 'significant difference' for the likes of most of us, especially when seen from a distance and particularly as it features new RA2-style lightweight arrows and is black-on-white.. not the norm for NR Brunel signage.

Whatever. It's a very poor sign. No reason why it shouldn't have been TfL Johnston 100.
 
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London Waterloo, by platform 4/5 and Exit 2 (for Waterloo Road). There appears to be another sign on the opposite side.
 

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traji00 said:
London Waterloo, by platform 4/5 and Exit 2 (for Waterloo Road). There appears to be another sign on the opposite side.
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After another recent trip to switzerland (everything is clear white on blue signage), theyve got to go bold text (original RA) at a bare minimum.
 
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Presumably a temporary solution while they work on redoing it properly.

I don't think the scale is a problem here, the text is roughly the same size as on the old ones and the layout is a lot neater looking. I'd be interested in seeing the other side too as that one looks to have more information on it.
 
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traji00 said:
London Waterloo, by platform 4/5 and Exit 2 (for Waterloo Road). There appears to be another sign on the opposite side.
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As @Bletchleyite says, do it properly or not at all. Whoever authorised that needs (re-)educating on what NR’s way finding project is about.
 
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The lack of consistency is bizarre, why is the Jubilee line "via escalators and lift" but Lost Property is "via escalators & lift"?
 
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