Stations within m25 that dont accept oyster

[Jamiescott1]

Apart from Denham and Denham golf club,are there any other railway stations within the m25 that do not accept oyster / contactless forms of payment

 

[Dr Hoo]

Ruislip Lido Railway?

(I'll get my coat...)

 

[Tio Terry]

Does Epsom and Ashtead now accept Oyster, they didn't not so long ago.

 

[sharpley]

Ashford (Surrey) and Staines are outside the Oyster zones but within the M25

 

[causton]

St Pancras International (Eurostar platforms)...

 

[Ianno87]

Staines
Ashford (Middlesex)
Chertsey
Addlestone
Shepperton
Upper Halliford
Esher
Hersham
Walton-on-Thames
Weybridge
Byfleet & New Haw
Hinchley Wood to Cobham (inclusive)

 

[sharpley]

Mail Rail... (grabbing at straws now)

 

[Ianno87]

Mail Rail... (grabbing at straws now)

...and the very southern tip of the Up Slow platform at Kings Langley....

 

[Ianno87]

Also Watford North, Garston and Bricket Wood.

 

[sharpley]

...and the very southern tip of the Up Slow platform at Kings Langley....

Just checked that out on Google Maps.... wow thats literally a metre or 2 within the M25

 

[Bald Rick]

...and the very southern tip of the Up Slow platform at Kings Langley....

Niche!

 

[bengley]

Radlett

 

[172006]

Does Epsom and Ashtead now accept Oyster, they didn't not so long ago.

Epsom now accepts Oyster. Ashtead doesn't.

Radlett

Radlett is "Expected to be included within the pay as you go area from summer 2019."

 

[bengley]

Radlett is "Expected to be included within the pay as you go area from summer 2019."

Indeed, but it meets the criteria of the OP because it doesn't yet.

 

[172006]

Kempton Rark
Sunbury
Woldingham.
Interesting that so many are SWR.

 

[swt_passenger]

Kempton Rark, Sunbury and Woldingham.
Interesting that so many are SWR.

Not really that odd, given that the M25 isn’t an administrative boundary for any known purposes...

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

Not really that odd, given that the M25 isn’t an administrative boundary for any known purposes...

Though it's a reasonable indication of whether or not somewhere is in the sort of "London" region, and it would seem logical (too logical for the rail industry!) to simply say that Oyster is accepted at all stations within the M25.

 

[Railcar]

Although Epsom station now accepts Oyster, the Freedom Pass boundary was not changed so a ticket from Ewell East or Ewell West to Epsom is still required. This despite the two 'racecourse' stations on separate branches (Epsom Downs and Tattenham Corner) being a mile or more to the south, yet still within the M25.

 

[Ianno87]

Though it's a reasonable indication of whether or not somewhere is in the sort of "London" region, and it would seem logical (too logical for the rail industry!) to simply say that Oyster is accepted at all stations within the M25.

"Inside the M25" is a well-recognised geographic region.

Even more remarkable when, technically, the M25 isn't a circle....

 

[swt_passenger]

Although Epsom station now accepts Oyster, the Freedom Pass boundary was not changed so a ticket from Ewell East or Ewell West to Epsom is still required. This despite the two 'racecourse' stations on separate branches (Epsom Downs and Tattenham Corner) being a mile or more to the south, yet still within the M25.

You’d need to change Epsom to be in a London Borough to extend the Freedom Pass surely?

 

[cactustwirly]

Kempton Rark, Sunbury and Woldingham.
Interesting that so many are SWR.

Maybe because the M25 is well into Surrey at that point, the M25 isn't the border for London

 

[PeterC]

Maybe because the M25 is well into Surrey at that point, the M25 isn't the border for London

While TfL services extend beyond the M25 in several places. I get pretty hacked off with friends from London getting smug about how they can visit me for nothing with their Freedom or 60+ Passes while I have to pay in the reverse direction.

 

[MotCO]

Knockholt?

 

[Hophead]

Knockholt?

The station is in zone 6. The Greater London (Bromley) / Kent border runs slightly to the south of the station (indeed it follows the railway for a couple of hundred metres towards Sevenoaks)

 

[Railcar]

You’d need to change Epsom to be in a London Borough to extend the Freedom Pass surely?

Epsom Downs station is in the Borough of Epsom and Ewell, no Tfl trains call, yet is in the Freedom Pass area. The Tattenham Corner line is the same, plus it also passes through Reigate & Banstead.
Other examples of National Rail stations without TfL presence but in the Freedom Pass area include Upper Warlingham, Whyteleafe, Whiteleafe South and Caterham.
The Freedom Pass area seems to be simply what TfL decide it will be.

 

[JonathanH]

The Freedom Pass area seems to be simply what TfL decide it will be.

The decision to extend Zone 6 to the end of the Epsom Downs, Tattenham Corner and Caterham branches (which of necessity also included Upper Warlingham because it is 'across the road' from Whyteleafe) was made in the early 2000s and reflects the fact that there is little point running trains to the end of these lines which are empty beyond the London boundary with lots of passengers railheading to the last stations inside the London boundary.

It isn't just a case of TfL deciding that the freedom pass should be available at those stations on a whim.

 

[swt_passenger]

Epsom Downs station is in the Borough of Epsom and Ewell, no Tfl trains call, yet is in the Freedom Pass area. The Tattenham Corner line is the same, plus it also passes through Reigate & Banstead.
Other examples of National Rail stations without TfL presence but in the Freedom Pass area include Upper Warlingham, Whyteleafe, Whiteleafe South and Caterham.
The Freedom Pass area seems to be simply what TfL decide it will be.

You don’t need “TfL trains” to call for a station to be in the Freedom Pass area, that’s quite an unnecessary point.

 

[James H]

And it's worth noting that the Freedom Pass is not a TfL-owned and managed product in any case.

It is funded and administered by London Councils (the boroughs working together) as successors to the GLC.

 

[Dr_Paul]

While TfL services extend beyond the M25 in several places. I get pretty hacked off with friends from London getting smug about how they can visit me for nothing with their Freedom or 60+ Passes while I have to pay in the reverse direction.

I have relations who live a couple of hundred yards from Stoneleigh station, but as they live in Epsom borough they don't get the Old Codgers' Oyster card, although Stoneleigh station is in the London Oyster area (Zone 5). I live in a London borough, so I use my Old Codgers' Oyster Card when I visit them, which narks them a little.

I notice that on the TFL map, Epsom station is in a peculiar little unnumbered zone of its own within the 'pay as you go' area, as are some other stations on the northern and eastern borders of the map. What does that represent?

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

I have relations who live a couple of hundred yards from Stoneleigh station, but as they live in Epsom borough they don't get the Old Codgers' Oyster card, although Stoneleigh station is in the London Oyster area (Zone 5). I live in a London borough, so I use my Old Codgers' Oyster Card when I visit them, which narks them a little.

I notice that on the TFL map, Epsom station is in a peculiar little unnumbered zone of its own within the 'pay as you go' area, as are some other stations on the northern and eastern borders of the map. What does that represent?

That Oyster and contactless is accepted but that it is not in a numbered Zone. Except that Zone 8 Travelcards can still be used to travel to and from Epsom, so...