Stopgap options to cover for delays to introduction of Class 810 for EMR?

[D365]

Just think how much of this could have been avoided if realistic timescales had been given right from the start..

Would Hitachi have won the order if they had given realistic timescales?

 

[Failed Unit]

Would Hitachi have won the order if they had given realistic timescales?

Probably not. EMRs ask was very off the shelf. I suspect they may be regretting not going for a 110mph train. Although had the whole line got electrified i suspect we would have a better conclusion. With how tight money is the passengers may not think so as it would probably be refurbished 350/2.

 

[43074]

Probably not. EMRs ask was very off the shelf. I suspect they may be regretting not going for a 110mph train. Although had the whole line got electrified i suspect we would have a better conclusion.

I don't see why they would have any regrets, running at 110mph instead of 120/125mph south of Bedford costs around 3 minutes. From a commercial point of view that would mean extending the journey time on all of their biggest flows (i.e. London - Nottingham, Leicester and Sheffield) which doesn't make any sense.

There's no indication that the delay to the 810s is because they were specified for 125mph, there are lots of other factors at play e.g. quality control issues and getting a training agreement with the unions.

 

[Aspen90]

There’s no way we can be any slower - the timings are so tight with the Thameslinks. If I leave STP 1 or 2 late I’m stuck behind the stopper or if I’ve an engine out and halfway to Bedford and delayed they’ll stick it on the fast in front of me and I’m stuffed for keeping time to the north then!