Storm Doris Thursday 23rd - Major disruption on some routes

[gavin]

The met office have named Storm Doris for Thursday currently, the worst affected areas are expected to be the East Midlands, East of England, North West England, Wales, West Midlands, Yorkshire & Humber where winds could hit 80mph for a short time

The exact track of the storm isn't final yet as such the exact areas which will be worst affected is still subject to change

With high wind speeds, disruption to rail services is entirely possible from fallen trees etc

If you are planning on traveling on Thursday you would be advised to check the forecast and be prepared for last minute changes

The current estimate for the worst of the winds is in the amber warning below

 

[Trackman]

The met office have named Storm Doris for Thursday currently, the worst affected areas are expected to be the East Midlands, East of England, North West England, Wales, West Midlands, Yorkshire & Humber where winds could hit 80mph for a short time

The exact track of the storm isn't final yet as such the exact areas which will be worst affected is still subject to change

With high wind speeds, disruption to rail services is entirely possible from fallen trees etc

If you are planning on traveling on Thursday you would be advised to check the forecast and be prepared for last minute changes

The current estimate for the worst of the winds is in the amber warning below

Thanks for the heads up, I don't usually take notice of storm warnings from the met office in my area (alerts from my phone) but I'm travelling on Thursday to Manchester (eek!). fingers crossed etc.

 

[nottinghamcity]

Not looking good for the East Midlands!

 

[Wivenswold]

I should add some caution on this storm, the track and development will not be known for sure until tomorrow evening at the earliest. The Met Office weather warnings are fairly general at the moment.

You'll probably start hearing the phrase "Weather Bomb" which is a media name they made up to make a winter storm sound more severe than it is. It's an extrapolation of a meteorological phrase used when an area of low pressure intensifies quickly and the pressure is said to "bomb". It's nothing new.

Where the process of "bombing" or "Explosive Cyclogenesis" (to use the scientific term) occurs is crucial in deciding how bad it will be. If it happens over the UK, then there will indeed be a narrow band of very high winds (gusts maybe to 70mph). If it delays and happens over the North Sea then everyone will be on here asking what the fuss was about.

It's one to watch, especially if you're planning to travel between the peak hours on Thursday but it could also turn out to be nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[Blindtraveler]

I awoke today to a pile of notifications from Accuweather's brilliant app about this. I am London bound via WCML and should VT lift ticket restrictions shall take advantage so as to build in delay time.

 

[londonmidland]

Just an advanced warning of possible disruption due to a developing area of low pressure is expected to move across the UK on Thursday.

High winds and strong gusts are the main concern at the moment. Midlands Northwards seem to be in the firing line.

Some of the charts which are appearing now, showing the wind speeds in km/h

 

[Wivenswold]

Going on the models as they are playing out at the moment and each run of them will produce slightly different results, I'd suggest OHL problems around Merseyside, Crewe, Grantham, Peterborough and later in the afternoon, Diss.

 

[theironroad]

As the last storm that the media predicted would be called Doris (from. The a-z American style list which I guess the UK will abandon soon..) never materialised, then expect a light breeze and weather associated with a northern hemisphere winter (it's mid February btw).

A bit of wind doesn't need to become a Disney drama.

 

[Shaw S Hunter]

Given that already now, in the early hours of Wednesday, the wind is already picking up here in South Lancashire I rather think this storm is for real. The weather forecasts earlier showed clearly that there are no fewer than three fronts associated with this system so expect plenty of rain.

 

[Wivenswold]

As the last storm that the media predicted would be called Doris (from. The a-z American style list which I guess the UK will abandon soon..) never materialised, then expect a light breeze and weather associated with a northern hemisphere winter (it's mid February btw).

A bit of wind doesn't need to become a Disney drama.

There's no evidence that the Met Office will abandon the naming system as it's been considered a success in raising awareness.

There was such a tabloid-style fuss made about the 1987 storm which was actually forecast, wasn't a hurricane but did, admittedly, change course unexpectedly and hit the UK instead of France pushing the strongest winds further north. So now the Met Office will always err on the side of caution. There's nothing to suggest this is being overplayed at the moment.

Unfortunately much of the fact is drowned out by hyperbole in the press, a slightly worse than normal depression becomes a "Hurricane", a few chilly days will be called a "Killer Freeze". Sadly, people believe what they read in newspapers and then blame the Met Office.

 

[Groningen]

Ha, ha, ha; the Netherlands tomorrow! Windforce 11 and speeds at the coast around the 150 kilometers an hour!

 

[Bletchleyite]

Given that already now, in the early hours of Wednesday, the wind is already picking up here in South Lancashire I rather think this storm is for real. The weather forecasts earlier showed clearly that there are no fewer than three fronts associated with this system so expect plenty of rain.

Even down South it's more than a little windy at the minute. Nothing that's going to bring the wires down, but it's early days.

 

[rg177]

I'm having a little rail trip this next couple of days staying in Chester, and I've just scrapped the idea of going to North Wales tomorrow and instead I'm heading towards Hereford then probably across towards Birmingham in the hope that I won't encounter as much disruption...

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[gavin]

Updated amber warning now extends further south

 

[Saint66]

Still lots of uncertainty about the track, even this close. However, the METO have been quite bullish with the use of the word damaging so far over quite a large and populated area of the country, so certainly an interesting 36 hours ahead.

 

[cuccir]

Snow warning has now also been upgraded to amber in central and southern Scotland. The Met Office is quite blunt on this one (my emphasis):

Heavy snow is expected on Thursday. Accumulations of 10 to 15 cm are likely quite widely with 20 to 30 cm falling on hills above 300 metres. This will lead to disruption to transport and perhaps power supplies.

 

[PHILIPE]

ATW preparing for Doris. Extract from special Journey Check announcement:-

Expected disruption caused by Storm Doris

QUOTE
[High winds are expected to affect many parts of Wales during Thursday 23rd February 2017 brought in by Storm Doris. As a result, for safety reasons trains will have to run at reduced speed on the following routes:

Holyhead - Llandudno Junction (Via Bangor)
Aberystwyth - Caersws (Via Machynlleth)
Pwllheli ? Machynlleth
Fishguard Harbour / Milford Haven / Pembroke Dock - Llanelli (Via Carmarthen]

As a result of these speed restrictions, services on these routes may be subject to delay and short notice alteration.
We also ask that customers take extra care while making journeys]

 

[al78]

As the last storm that the media predicted would be called Doris (from. The a-z American style list which I guess the UK will abandon soon..) never materialised, then expect a light breeze and weather associated with a northern hemisphere winter (it's mid February btw).

A bit of wind doesn't need to become a Disney drama.

*sign* there's always one. :roll:

It is not being treated as a Disney drama, it is a case of warning of possible transport disruption, power failures and property damage. 80 mph gusts are capable of knocking down trees and taking bits off buildings, which then become airbourne debris. An 80 mph gust in the centre of Manchester, if it really got that strong at street level (i.e. not at the tops of buildings), would be about a 1 in 200 year return level, so a long way from being normal weather conditions.

 

[96tommy]

Travelling from London to York tomorrow evening so hopefully the wires on the ECML stay up.

 

[marks87]

As the last storm that the media predicted would be called Doris (from. The a-z American style list which I guess the UK will abandon soon..) never materialised, then expect a light breeze and weather associated with a northern hemisphere winter (it's mid February btw).

The important phrase in there is "media predicted". At no point was a storm officially named.

The naming system will stay. It's effective at increasing awareness because it gives a single point of reference for all interested parties (the public, Met Office, Government, local authorities, transport companies etc.).

 

[duffield]

Maybe a bit foolish, but I'm deliberately planning to do Leeds->Armathwaite and back tomorrow, right in the middle of the predicted storm. Hoping for some fairly spectacular blizzards etc. (but not quite spectacular enough to stop the trains ).

 

[trainmananthon]

Maybe a bit foolish, but I'm deliberately planning to do Leeds->Armathwaite and back tomorrow, right in the middle of the predicted storm. Hoping for some fairly spectacular blizzards etc. (but not quite spectacular enough to stop the trains ).

I'll be on the line tomorrow aswell. If you can actually see out of the window then there's a high possibility that you will see what I call an 'upwards waterfall' where streams on the mountains are being blown back into the air! It happens regularly on Mallerstang!

 

[Bletchleyite]

I'll be on the line tomorrow aswell. If you can actually see out of the window then there's a high possibility that you will see what I call an 'upwards waterfall' where streams on the mountains are being blown back into the air! It happens regularly on Mallerstang!

And "Kinder uplift", as you might call it

 

[matchmaker]

Don't know if this is caused by Doris:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-39053418

Rail service have been disrupted after an Aberdeen to Inverness train was damaged when it hit a fallen tree in Aberdeenshire.

The incident involving the 10:13 service happened close to Inverurie.

ScotRail Alliance said no-one was injured in the collision, but that the damage included a smashed windscreen and engine failure.

 

[Deepgreen]

Snow warning has now also been upgraded to amber in central and southern Scotland. The Met Office is quite blunt on this one (my emphasis):

A cover-all. With 30cm of snow, roads will be much worse affected than rail (given the 300m qualification and that there are few railways at this altitude in the amber area), and the Met Office follows other national organisations in playing safe.

 

[sheff1]

If you can actually see out of the window then there's a high possibility that you will see what I call an 'upwards waterfall' where streams on the mountains are being blown back into the air! It happens regularly on Mallerstang!

Indeed. It used to be due to normal winter weather but now it is, apparently, caused by one or more of a "Weatherbomb", "Killer Storm", "Deadly Hurricane" etc.:

 

[Deepgreen]

Maybe a bit foolish, but I'm deliberately planning to do Leeds->Armathwaite and back tomorrow, right in the middle of the predicted storm. Hoping for some fairly spectacular blizzards etc. (but not quite spectacular enough to stop the trains ).

Not likely to be snow, even on the highest parts of the line, with temperatures only down to about 3C and heavy, driving, rain. You might be lucky, though.

 

[trainmananthon]

And "Kinder uplift", as you might call it

Yes, that's the one!

Just been past mallerstang now and it was already in action!

 

[gavin]

Don't know if this is caused by Doris:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-39053418

Won't be Doris she's only just forming out in the Atlantic and will rapidly deepen overnight what some will call a 'weather bomb'

 

[gavin]

Some nasty wind gusts around tomorrow for most the winds ease by late afternoon